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Harrogate, Richmond (North Yorkshire), Inverness, Hammersmith and Ryedale go live in the full service today -  https://www.gov.uk/government/news/universal-credit-expands-to-all-claimants-in-5-more-areas

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shawn - 25 May 2016 11:05 AM
stevenmcavoy - 11 May 2016 11:05 AM
AndreaM - 10 May 2016 05:31 PM

Hi everyone

Am getting in a bit of a panic about this, as I see clients from all over the place, not only from my local borough (which has 3 different JCP areas anyway…)

Is there anywhere where I can look up full service roll-out dates (for later on in May and for the rest of the year) by postcode, and not by JCP .....

I’m scotland wide andrea so appreciate your panic. ....

Hi both ..... further to the work we’ve been doing on socialcareinfo & counciltaxhelp - and in conjunction with the Low Incomes Tax Reform Group - we’re busy building a UC postcode checker tool to help with this.

Watch that space!

Here you go: http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/9977/

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New Work and Pensions Secretary has announced that the govt is ‘reshaping’ the next phase of Universal Credit rollout:

http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2016-07-20/HCWS96/

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shawn - 20 July 2016 03:00 PM

New Work and Pensions Secretary has announced that the govt is ‘reshaping’ the next phase of Universal Credit rollout:

http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2016-07-20/HCWS96/

im getting confused by the terminology here so hopefully someone can clarify.

ive been taking live to mean in place but with gateway conditions and digital to mean in place and no gateway conditions.

the link here says port glasgow will go live instead of other scottish places later this year but as far as im aware that went “live” in 2015. so im assuming its going digital?

have i lost the plot? its ten to six so its possible.

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stevenmcavoy - 20 July 2016 05:53 PM
shawn - 20 July 2016 03:00 PM

New Work and Pensions Secretary has announced that the govt is ‘reshaping’ the next phase of Universal Credit rollout:

http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2016-07-20/HCWS96/

im getting confused by the terminology here so hopefully someone can clarify.

ive been taking live to mean in place but with gateway conditions and digital to mean in place and no gateway conditions.

the link here says port glasgow will go live instead of other scottish places later this year but as far as im aware that went “live” in 2015. so im assuming its going digital?

have i lost the plot? its ten to six so its possible.

I’m sure that you’re right and Mr Green is talking about the digital (full service) start date although in traditional DWP style it’s far from obvious. There’s a lot going on in that statement ( particularly a significant slowing down of the UC full service rollout)  See the rightsnet news story:  http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/welfare-rights/news/item/roll-out-of-universal-credit-to-be-further-delayed-announces-work-and-pensi

BBC have also picked up on this at :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36847967

 

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Guardian too - https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/20/universal-credit-five-year-delay-2022-damian-green

‘Currently just 280,000 claimants are on the system, compared to an original target of 6m.’

...on time and on budget…..

PS Neil ‘Thank-You-Cards’ Couling does not accept that this is a delay….

[ Edited: 21 Jul 2016 at 09:33 am by Andrew Dutton ]
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Neil Couling replied: “I wouldn’t accept that it’s a delay.”

Sticks his fingers in his ears “la la la la la I can’t hear you…...”

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Paul_Treloar_AgeUK - 21 July 2016 10:05 AM

Neil Couling replied: “I wouldn’t accept that it’s a delay.”

Sticks his fingers in his ears “la la la la la I can’t hear you…...”

noun
1.
a period of time by which something is late or postponed.
“a two-hour delay”
synonyms: hold-up, wait, waiting period, detainment; More


seems conclusive to me

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stevenmcavoy - 21 July 2016 10:47 AM
Paul_Treloar_AgeUK - 21 July 2016 10:05 AM

Neil Couling replied: “I wouldn’t accept that it’s a delay.”

Sticks his fingers in his ears “la la la la la I can’t hear you…...”

noun
1.
a period of time by which something is late or postponed.
“a two-hour delay”
synonyms: hold-up, wait, waiting period, detainment; More


seems conclusive to me

Not of you’re a member of the Humpty Dumpty school of linguistics.

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Here’s a link to a video of yesterday’s Public Accounts Committee evidence session with Sir Robert Devereux, DWP Permanent Secretary, and Neil Couling, Universal Credit Director General

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/70766935-20fe-4aa0-a0e1-0c900e100b02?in=14:50:50

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nevip - 21 July 2016 12:25 PM
stevenmcavoy - 21 July 2016 10:47 AM
Paul_Treloar_AgeUK - 21 July 2016 10:05 AM

Neil Couling replied: “I wouldn’t accept that it’s a delay.”

Sticks his fingers in his ears “la la la la la I can’t hear you…...”

noun
1.
a period of time by which something is late or postponed.
“a two-hour delay”
synonyms: hold-up, wait, waiting period, detainment; More


seems conclusive to me

Not of you’re a member of the Humpty Dumpty school of linguistics.

all the kings horses and all of the kings men are on the way, but this needs to be done in a managed way.

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Think the “non-delay” of the two child rule in UC from April 2017 to November 2018 is interesting - how are they going to deal with making people claim tax credits in UC areas - will they have to re-introduce the newly abolished ESA and JSA for people who are not in work?

Can’t really understand why the whole thing necessary apart from perhaps a problem with the UC IT which means it goes into meltdown if you try and make it add more than two children but only pay for two?

Anyway, as other people have remarked, good job it’s all turning out so simple!

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curious what it means to the last date people will be able to claim a legacy benefit?

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Barbara Knight - 21 July 2016 03:32 PM

curious what it means to the last date people will be able to claim a legacy benefit?

Gareth could add that to his poll.

The original planned date for all new claims to be UC was April 2014. But that’s not a delay either. Probably.