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HB Anorak
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According to Inside Housing, the Harrogate pilot project will be voluntary: claimants will only migrate to UC if they want to.  Sounds a lot like natural migration to me.  How will Harrogate be different from anywhere else?  OK, transitional protection I suppose.  But otherwise, what exactly is it they are piloting that doesn’t happen all over the country now?

     
Dan Manville
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Another 12 month delay whilst to good folk of Harrogate sit sniggering and until enough people have naturally migrated in a managed manner?

     
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I understand it is only voluntary in the sense that if a claimant just refuses to engage, they will not switch off any legacy benefits. They will be sending out letters ‘inviting’ people to claim UC, and will presumably encourage them to do so.

     
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Wonder whether Inside Housing got this from yesterday’s DWP Universal Credit stakeholder event?

Certainly from what the DWP said it seems they’re planning a softly softly approach (my words not theirs)

     
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Perhaps the goal is to trial whatever software solution they have to identify existing legacy claimants from disparate systems and arrange for them to be invited to claim?

     
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shawn - 14 June 2019 02:17 PM

Wonder whether Inside Housing got this from yesterday’s DWP Universal Credit stakeholder event?

Certainly from what the DWP said it seems they’re planning a softly softly approach (my words not theirs)

i never got notice of this event despite being an attender of various dwp groups.  i only heard it was on via social media.

     
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shawn - 14 June 2019 02:17 PM

Certainly from what the DWP said it seems they’re planning a softly softly approach (my words not theirs)

And this is the thing that’s going to be yet another unbearable pill to swallow. We’ll get to the end of the Harrogate trial and the DWP will trumpet from the heavens (or at least their next Metro mythbusting session) how wonderfully successful it’s all been and how UC is ready to begin mass managed migration. Which will then promptly collapse and inflict huge harm to the innocent people caught up in it. Such issues will be denied and Harrogate will be pointed to as showing how everything is working fine and was fully tested before it began.

Only Harrogate was and never will be a proper trial as they were always going to throw the kitchen sink at making sure it goes as smoothly as possible. Which is something they’ll never do once it goes national.

Urgh, I’m already enraged at the DWP and it’s not even 9am yet.

     
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Any idea when it will actually start?
No sign of the draft regulations going through, they seem a bit pre-occupied

     
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Vonny - 17 June 2019 09:08 AM

Any idea when it will actually start?
No sign of the draft regulations going through, they seem a bit pre-occupied

Harrogate is supposed to be 17 July ....

     
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shawn - 17 June 2019 11:29 AM
Vonny - 17 June 2019 09:08 AM

Any idea when it will actually start?
No sign of the draft regulations going through, they seem a bit pre-occupied

Harrogate is supposed to be 17 July ....

Yes I know that is in theory, but any rumours about when it will start in reality?

     
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Flippant I know but is it more than a co-incidence that most Government disasters and cover-ups have the word “gate” attached to the end of them?

     
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Chrissum - 17 June 2019 01:29 PM

Flippant I know but is it more than a co-incidence that most Government disasters and cover-ups have the word “gate” attached to the end of them?

Harrogate-gate?

You reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB9JgxhXW5w

     
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I can find no mention of the debate for the Regs on the Parliamentary calendar for June/July. Given that we are about to have a change of PM and the SoS will also probably change, is this debate likely to happen before 17th July do you think?

     
Andrew Dutton
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I hear (indirectly) that MPs don’t know what’s happening either.

     
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Neil Couling alluded to the difficulties in Parliament, related to Brexit and the Tory leadership contest, as having caused significant delay and uncertainty about laying the new regulations, at the recent UC stakeholder event.

     
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Thank You!

So possibly nothing for many weeks -

Summer Recess -  House Rises 25 July 2019 House returns 3 Sept 2019