× Search rightsnet
Search options

Where

Benefit

Jurisdiction

Jurisdiction

From

to

Forum Home  →  Discussion  →  Income support, JSA and tax credits  →  Thread

Tax credit cuts latest

 < 1 2 3 4 > 

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

Insightful analysis by Declan Gaffney Has the cost of tax credits really ballooned?

The numbers here are rubbish, as we’ll see, but the problem with the argument is less to do with the numbers than the logic. Public expenditure programmes can grow for any number of reasons, good or bad. Simply stating that expenditure is higher now than in the past is not even the beginning of a rationale for policy change: if it were, we would be discussing cuts to the state pension (up £35bn since 1999/2000, when tax credits were first introduced) and the NHS (up £65bn). When politicians cite expenditure growth as a rationale for cuts, the obvious question is: what led to the rise in spending? In the current debate, that question rarely seems to be raised.

So there is no mystery about the rise in tax credit expenditure:  it was driven by overt distributional choices by Labour governments (the main factor) coupled with falls in real wages since 2007/8. The government’s approach mirrors the factors driving growth. The introduction of the National Living Wage can be seen as tackling the wage issue. But as the IFS have argued, it cannot, as a matter of simple arithmetic, completely offset the cuts to tax credits. Thus, ultimately, the government is making distributional choices, which run in the opposite direction to those made by Labour. It is those distributional choices, rather than trends in spending or lazy allegations about subsidising low pay, which should be at the centre of debate.

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

Guardian report based on minister’s interview with Today this morning, in which he also said that tax credit cuts were mitigated by cheap petrol amongst other delights….

George Osborne will soften the impact of his planned tax credits cuts if peers step back from a confrontation with the government and instead back a “regret motion”, the Cabinet Office minister, Matt Hancock, has indicated.

In the strongest signal from the chancellor’s camp that he will respond to growing unease among ministers to the cuts, his former chief of staff said Osborne was “very much in listening mode”.

As the government fights to persuade the House of Lords not to throw out the tax cuts altogether, Hancock suggested the chancellor would not act if peers voted for any other option on Monday afternoon.

Speaking on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme, Hancock said: “George is very much in listening mode. The peers this afternoon have the opportunity, through a motion put down by the bishop of Portsmouth, to express regret at this measure without breaking these constitutional conventions, long standing.”

Tax credits: ‘Osborne may soften cuts impact if Lords express regret’

shawn mach
Administrator

rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 3782

Joined: 14 April 2010

There’s also an urgent tax credits evidence session being held today by the Work and Pensions Select Committee with the IFS & Resolution Foundation

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/work-and-pensions-committee/news-parliament-2015/tax-credits-evidence-2015-16/

Ros
Administrator

editor, rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 1323

Joined: 6 June 2010

Here’s the CPAG briefing on the cuts for the Lords’ debate today -

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/lords-briefing-tax-credit-statutory-instrument

Mr Finch
forum member

Benefits adviser - Isle of Wight CAB

Send message

Total Posts: 510

Joined: 4 March 2011

I would like to know what the Conservative MPs who oppose the cut think about the level of financial support offered by universal credit. My personal opinion is that Osborne has released that some level of gradual buffering is needed to lead people in to UC.

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

Wouldn’t usually post something from the S*n but they have run a story based on our briefing today.

White van man will be £2,200 worse off because of George Osborne

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

This is worth a read.

Tory secrecy on tax credits has come back to haunt them

If the government had been decent enough to put these cuts through as a bill, they wouldn’t be in this mess. And they would also have the ability to introduce amendments addressing the concerns of their critics on the government and opposition benches. But they didn’t. They tried to sneak it in. And now it has come back to bite them.

Ros
Administrator

editor, rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 1323

Joined: 6 June 2010

House of Lords votes against Baroness Manzoor’s fatal motion on tax credit cuts regulations by 310 to 99.

Ros
Administrator

editor, rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 1323

Joined: 6 June 2010

House of Lords votes in favour of delaying consideration of tax credit cuts regulations until government responds to IFS impact analysis by 307 to 277.

[ Edited: 26 Oct 2015 at 07:56 pm by Ros ]
Ros
Administrator

editor, rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 1323

Joined: 6 June 2010

House of Lords votes in favour delaying consideration of tax credit cuts regulations until government provides full transitional protection for current claimants by 289 to 272.

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

Andyp4 - 27 October 2015 09:11 AM

That alone is worth the subscription to CPAG as an individual rights member!

Thanks Andy :-)

I liked this quote from yesterday’s Work and Pensions Select Committee hearing, where Torsten Bell, the Resolution Foundation’s new director gave evidence:

When asked about the best way to mitigate the reforms, Bell said: “Tax cuts and the living wage cannot compensate for these tax credit changes. They are not an option. The answer to tax credits is tax credits.”

Tax credit system: experts urge Conservatives to phase in planned reform

Gareth Morgan
forum member

CEO, Ferret, Cardiff

Send message

Total Posts: 2004

Joined: 16 June 2010

I thought that I might try to model, speculatively, some of the effects of the possible ‘softening’ that will be announced in the Autumn Statement.

Any (serious) thoughts on what might be the outcome?

lost in Granite
forum member

Training and Appeals team, glasgow city council welfare rights

Send message

Total Posts: 72

Joined: 11 March 2015

options

1. The full change applies to new claimants only

2. Existing claimants receive a reducing degree of Transitional protection, say
100% in year 1
75% in year 2
50% in year 3

3.  Start the migration of Tax credit claimants to UC in April 16