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HB capital issues and ‘Jones v Kernott’

Kurt12
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Welfare Rights Service, Tameside MBC

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I have a customer who has a share in a former marital home which he left many years ago.  This share is preventing him from claiming HB as he is presumed to have capital over £16k.  I understand that his share is an undefined ‘joint tenancy’ type of share so it is assumed that he will have a 50% presumed share, albeit based on the market value of what such a share in a partially occupied house would be worth.

The customer concerned tells me that he left very early on the in the arrangement so he paid little towards the mortgage on the property and nothing towards any subsequent upkeep.  Were his ‘share’ to be assessed in terms of what he contributed it would be so negligible that it would likely be well below £16k.  There was a 2011 Supreme Court case ‘Jones v Kernott’ where the long standing presumption of a 50/50 split in what I take to be similar circumstances was actually split 90/10 in favour of the resident who had contributed most. 

I have 2 questions:

1) Has the case ‘Jones v Kernott’ had any impact on the assessment of capital for any means tested benefits and/or does anyone think it might assist my customer in this instance?

2) If HB had been refused years ago and was not appealed against at the time what would be the position with a new HB claim now?  Could the capital issue be looked at now (perhaps in view of the case above) or would any raising of this issue be effectively prevented by some kind of ‘res judicata’ principle?

Jon (CANY)
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Just on the res judicata point: I had an HB case where the cl had previously lost an appeal at tribunal due to excess capital. They reapplied a couple of years later and were turned down again for a similar reason. On appeal, the new tribunal decided that res judicata meant they couldn’t make a ‘different determination of the same issues’ that the earlier tribunal has considered. We successfully got this set aside, citing CIS/2540/2004 and CIS/1213/2011, and arguing that fresh findings of fact could be made.

nevip
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Jones v Kernott, like Stack v Dowden which it followed, concerns the position with regard to unmarried couples.  The position with married couples was always more complicated due to the special place of marriage historically within society.  So, you will need to look at the wider case law. I haven’t read the cases for a while but they do throw over decades of pretty much settled case law on the subject.  The advantage of the earlier cases is that they lent themselves to relative simplicity in calculating equitable interests.  That is not so now. 

These kinds of cases do have relevance for Social Security law.  However, the problem will be that it can hardly be expected of decision makers to undertake the kind of forensic analysis undertaken by the specialist courts in all but the more simple cases.  But, that is not to say that they can just ignore the issues in their entirety.  If you are going to use these arguments you will have to do your homework and put a lot of work into evidence gathering.  The assistance of a decent solicitor will help.  One way to proceed if an appeal is in the offing is to get it stayed pending the outcome of the court case, presuming there is one of course.  I’ve attached the two decisions plus a useful summary of the issues following Stack v Dowden.

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