× Search rightsnet
Search options

Where

Benefit

Jurisdiction

Jurisdiction

From

to

Forum Home  →  Discussion  →  Work capability issues and ESA  →  Thread

New DWP guidance for ESA WRAG claimants on sanctions

 < 1 2 3 > 

shawn mach
Administrator

rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 3782

Joined: 14 April 2010

JP 007
forum member

Welfare rights - Dundee City Council

Send message

Total Posts: 97

Joined: 2 February 2012

Nice to have a conclusion to a story like this, it gives a good insight to the machinations of the DWP publication department. They should also add that the stories aren’t real or even remotely informative about how the sanctions will hit the poor claimant.

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

Interesting to note the complete absence of being given an Action Plan (a statutory requirement don’t forget) in relation to the steps you agree to undertake with your Work Coach.

Has anyone seen one of the fabled ESA Action Plans ever?

Benny Fitzpatrick
forum member

Welfare Rights Officer, Southway Housing Trust, Manchester

Send message

Total Posts: 628

Joined: 2 June 2015

“The people in this fact sheet aren’t real”.  Ergo they are not “facts”!

So the DWP admit that their “fact sheets” are not, in fact (haha) factual?

Didn’t I read somewhere once that IDS was “not overly concerned with facts”. His malady appears to be infecting the entire department.

MikeMay
forum member

Advice Session Superviser, Citizens Advice North Yorkshire

Send message

Total Posts: 28

Joined: 17 December 2014

I think if we know anything about IDS, it’s his lack of concern over facts…

...or ethics, reality, logic…

...probably best to stop there

BC Welfare Rights
forum member

The Brunswick Centre, Kirklees & Calderdale

Send message

Total Posts: 1366

Joined: 22 July 2013

Paul_Treloar_CPAG - 07 August 2015 12:35 PM

Has anyone seen one of the fabled ESA Action Plans ever?

I have found that claimants rarely get a copy but the Jobcentre will usually have them on its system and will provide them if asked. The attached is one I obtained and used for a late SG appeal, it was useful as it contained evidence collaborating the client’s claim that the WRA he was forced to do exacerbated his physical & mental health problems.

The entry on 08.03.13 regarding the possibility of obtaining a “special chair” was useful in demonstrating the WRA Provider’s inability to meet simple requests for adaptions. When he raised it with them they told him that there was no budget for a special chair but if he got uncomfortable he could put 3 chairs alongside each other and lie on them!

The judge was suitably unimpressed and commented in the decision that “..the DWP did not arrange special measures to address his physical problems. Although this evidence was after the date of the decision it does support the findings of the Tribunal”.

[ Edited: 7 Aug 2015 at 04:36 pm by BC Welfare Rights ]

File Attachments

BC Welfare Rights
forum member

The Brunswick Centre, Kirklees & Calderdale

Send message

Total Posts: 1366

Joined: 22 July 2013

shawn - 07 August 2015 11:50 AM

(Includes a note: ‘The people in this fact sheet aren’t real’)

It has also changed the ‘all employers need a CV’ bit to “most employers like to see one”

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

Billy Durrant - 07 August 2015 04:30 PM
Paul_Treloar_CPAG - 07 August 2015 12:35 PM

Has anyone seen one of the fabled ESA Action Plans ever?

I have found that claimants rarely get a copy but the Jobcentre will usually have them on its system and will provide them if asked. The attached is one I obtained and used for a late SG appeal, it was useful as it contained evidence collaborating the client’s claim that the WRA he was forced to do exacerbated his physical & mental health problems.

The entry on 08.03.13 regarding the possibility of obtaining a “special chair” was useful in demonstrating the WRA Provider’s inability to meet simple requests for adaptions. When he raised it with them they told him that there was no budget for a special chair but if he got uncomfortable he could put 3 chairs alongside each other and lie on them!

The judge was suitably unimpressed and commented in the decision that “..the DWP did not arrange special measures to address his physical problems. Although this evidence was after the date of the decision it does support the findings of the Tribunal”.

Thanks Billy.

shawn mach
Administrator

rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 3782

Joined: 14 April 2010

The Independent has now picked up on the story re the guidance being replaced

DWP admits making up quotes by ‘benefit claimants’ saying sanctions helped them

Ros
Administrator

editor, rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 1323

Joined: 6 June 2010

The DWP has now taken down the revised version and says - ‘We are reviewing this publication’ -

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-sanctions

Ros
Administrator

editor, rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 1323

Joined: 6 June 2010

Stephen Timms MP, Labour’s Acting Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary says -

‘You couldn’t make it up – but it seems Iain Duncan Smith can. The only way he can find backers for his sanctions regime is by inventing them. Instead of fabricating quotes pretending the system is working, he should scrap unfair sanctions targets for jobcentre staff and do more to protect vulnerable people from facing benefit sanctions.’

http://press.labour.org.uk/post/126996318919/response-to-the-dwp-using-fake-comments-in-benefit

Ros
Administrator

editor, rightsnet.org.uk

Send message

Total Posts: 1323

Joined: 6 June 2010

Paul_Treloar_CPAG
forum member

Advice and Rights Team, Child Poverty Action Group

Send message

Total Posts: 550

Joined: 30 June 2014

#fakeDWPstories now trending on twitter. Some pearlers on there….

* Thank you, ATOS and DWP - so-called consultant surgeons said my degenerative disease was incurable but now I’m Fit For Work!

* When the #ILP was cut, I was confined to my home in an old scrapyard. Forced to build a bionic exosuit, now I fight crimes!

* Having benefits stopped helped me get over my obsession with eating, my electricity addiction & the urge to sleep indoors.

* After being sanctioned I was inspired to make a functional origami wheelchair with my letter from IDS. Just what I needed.

* “Losing my home when my ESA stopped gave me the opportunity to start living in a tent.Its an all year round camping holiday”

benefitsadviser
forum member

Sunderland West Advice Project

Send message

Total Posts: 1003

Joined: 22 June 2010

Im hoping my boss will sanction my wages for a month or so.

It may then motivate and encourage me to become boss of British Gas…......

Or something…....

mickd123
forum member

Leicestershire Welfare Rights

Send message

Total Posts: 73

Joined: 7 July 2010

Kudos to JP007 who called this first on 30/7/15.