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Campbell McCrea
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Thanks for that Daphne.
So the argument would be that moving follows straight on from standing, without an intervening action of sitting down.

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Is the judge definitely referring to activity 12??

The descriptor says “stand AND THEN move” which seems clear enough.

Also, Chapter P2 of the ADM under the PIP descriptor log:

Can moving in a wheelchair be considered?
No - people who require a wheelchair/vehicle to move a given distance should not be considered able to move that distance under this descriptor

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That’s a good point Billy - it might be an aid when he’s preparing and cooking a meal for example - helping him get round the kitchen

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Yes and possibly managing toilet needs. But ‘low cost, widely available. etc’ ?
Does your client already have an electric wheelchair?

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I’m thinking Segway.

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Thanks for the reference to Advice to DMs.
Yes, he was referring to standing and moving.

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Further…and no she doen’t have a wheelchair of any kind.

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Glad to see that this has now been put to bed by 2015 UKUT 572 AAC..

I am a bit puzzled by the treatment of Dosette boxes for Daily Living Descriptor 3, Managing Therapy. The PIP2 at Q.5a specifically asks whether (paraphrasing) ‘you use an aid or appliance to take medication? E.g. a Dosette Box for tablets.’ But I have yet to see a DM or a Tribunal score 3b(I) for it.

Any ideas why this is? Is there some case law out there that precludes it?

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Billy Durrant - 04 December 2015 01:57 PM

Glad to see that this has now been put to bed by 2015 UKUT 572 AAC..

I am a bit puzzled by the treatment of Dosette boxes for Daily Living Descriptor 3, Managing Therapy. The PIP2 at Q.5a specifically asks whether (paraphrasing) ‘you use an aid or appliance to take medication? E.g. a Dosette Box for tablets.’ But I have yet to see a DM or a Tribunal score 3b(I) for it.

Any ideas why this is? Is there some case law out there that precludes it?

I suspect they don’t bother with 3(b)(i) because it doesn’t make any difference unless the claimant needs assistance to bathe.

 

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Which in the submission I am currently writing she does…