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What is a “bedroom”? Additional room for a carer

hbinfopeter
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The UT has just decided in CH/140/2013 (an LHA case) that a “bedroom” has a plain dictionary meaning…a room for sleeping / a room with a bed in it. That can mean a lounge is perfectly suitable for a carer for the extra bedroom rate to be granted.

“19. The word “bedroom” is not defined in the legislation. It is an ordinary English word and should be construed as such. According to the dictionary definition in the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary a bedroom is

“a room containing a bed”,

whilst in the Collins Dictionary it is

“a room furnished with beds or used for sleeping”.

In the Merriam Webster Dictionary it is

“a room used for sleeping”

This seems (to me anyway) to undermine DWP guidance that “there must be an extra room actually in the property” for the carer before a higher rate of LHA can be awarded . Yes, said the Judge, the carer must stay in the same dwelling but nothing more. Providing it is clear that a room is available and the arangements are that the carer can sleep there (on a sofa or sleeping bag on cushions even), the test is met. Lots of such applications were refused and will now have to be reviewed I guess.

The implications for under occupancy / bedroom tax…if the room is not set up for sleeping can it be a “bedroom”? A helpful argument? 

 

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How does this compare with CH/1940/2012 where the UT said:

“8. The argument on behalf of the claimant put forward by the company (which is effectively the appellant in this case) requires the word ‘bedroom’ in the amendment to the 2006 Regulations to be read as extending to any room occupied by a carer providing night time care to a recipient of housing benefit, or the partner of such a person, whether or not the room contains a bed or is used for sleeping in.  Such a departure from the plain and ordinary meaning of the word ‘bedroom’, if it were ever permissible, could only be justified if it was necessary to give effect to legislation implementing a provision of EU law, or to achieve compatibility with a right conferred by the European Convention on Human Rights.”

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here’s a copy of CH/140/2013 ...

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here’s a link to Nearly Legal blog discussing implications of CH/140/2013 on bedroom tax -

http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2014/01/upper-tribunal-on-bedrooms/

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dwp says it won’t be appealing the decision -

‘The Department has considered the Tribunal’s decision in depth, and whilst we do not agree with some aspects of it the outcome is correct. The Department has therefore decided not to appeal the decision further.

If this Upper Tribunal decision is relied upon in subsequent First-tier tribunal decisions on the removal of the spare room subsidy the Department will consider whether it is appropriate to intervene in individual cases.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmhansrd/cm140213/text/140213w0001.htm#14021378000033

Bryan R
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There was a 3 FURTHER UT Decisions handed down yesterday

They were as follows

1 Room size, 110 square feet of floor space for a bedroom
2 overnight carer for son of disabled tenant
3 dad allowed a room for his daughter who stays at weekends.

They will be available very soon

Andrew Hansard
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Do you have a link or copy of the ‘dad allowed a room for his daughter who stays at weekends’ decision?

Bryan R
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Will do on Monday.

HB Anorak
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If these are the ones Joe Halewood has mentioned on his blog, they are only First-tier Tribunal decisions: still no bedroom tax decisions from the UT