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All I want for Xmas is PIP decisions
I haven’t had any decisions yet, even from claims made in June. I’ve had a client who has had an assessment in her own home (yes, you read that right) although the first appointment date was cancelled on the morning of the appointment and not rescheduled for another 6 weeks.
Thank you Santa! I knew you would come through. My first PIP decision was waiting on my return to work. HR mobility and HR daily living.
DWP to publish ad hoc report on PIP claims registered and decisions made between April and December 2013 on 11 Feb -
I’ve now seen two decisions! Both awarded standard care. The first was awarded 8 points entirely on the basis of aids and appliances, which seems far too easy for the equivalent of M care DLA. (Although he did have other problems, which were ignored.)
I have just had a decision disallowing PIP to a laryngectomy patient. She was too unwell to complete the PIP2 in time due to hospitalisation so the decision was based solely on the ATOS assessment. They only scored her 6 points for care.
Needless to say a reconsideration is going in with a bucket load of information as she should score enough to get the enhanced daily living and at least the standard rate for mobility.
pip stats on new claims for april to december 2013 now out -
less than one in five had decision made by december 2013 and sharp decrease in cumulative percentage of decisions leading to award between june (88%) and december (50%) -
here’s rightsnet news story -
and stats themselves -
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-management-information
2 months on and this thread is still going.. How many decision making days till Xmas 2014?
Can you believe it, I’ve just had some PIP decisions! Nothing until now, not even for forms completed in July. The three I’ve just had through are all mental health, one awarded standard rate and two awarded enhanced rate daily living component. No mobility component awarded to any, even though none of the cliamants go out alone - all scored the 4 points for needing prompting to avoid psychological distress but none were found to qualify under the being unable to follow a route aspect.
None of the applications for physical health problems alone made around the same time have been decided, or have even had medical assessments yet.
I was quite impressed by the level of detail in the decision letters, and the levels of award made were more generous than I think would have been made under DLA.
I will be going on maternity leave next week on a slightly more cheery note now that the awards have eventually started to come through, rather than leaving a caseload of 50 undecided PIP claims as I thought was going to be the case this time last week.
This is from the PIP general enquiries line in December. The delays are due to ATOS not meeting their targets. PIP assessors cannot chase up the reports so they arrive when they arrive. The report and recommendation by ATOS is then looked at and a decision made - this decision is then looked at again to make sure it is right, before being issued to the claimant. Denial that targets have been removed for ATOS reports
One of my clients submitted her PIP in July’13 and had her face to face ATOS assessment on 2/8/13. PIP sent her a letter dated 10/2/14 (6 months) confirming they have received all the information needed and will make a decision soon.
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It is also worth noting there are delays in ATOS ESA85 reports and decisions following completion of the ESA50 - Typically 4-5 months.
ESA confirm that ATOS are looking to decide re-referals on Scrutiny only.
2 months on and this thread is still going.. How many decision making days till Xmas 2014?
This assumption seems not far fetched : I just had 2 clients who will be aged 16 and need to be switched from DLA to PIP
Both have been given a 12 month extension of their DLA awards pending decisions on the PIP claims….
Whats bothering me is that i have clients who have been waiting since last summer for even their medical and they are sick to death of the whole thing. They are so ground down by this they have told me that if they get turned down they have lost the will to challenge/appeal it.
The conspiracist in me tells me that this is deliberate, but we all know its just down to good ol’ fashioned DWP/Atos?Capita incompetence
The conspiracist in me tells me that this is deliberate, but we all know its just down to good ol’ fashioned DWP/Atos?Capita incompetence
I’m not so sure.
This article in the Grauniad painted to me a world in which The System would make life so intolerable for individual claimants that they’d give up on it.
Seems to be what’s happening. Getting the claimant caseload down by attrition instead of through more restrictive decision making.
Frankly, I think it’s true and have done for some time.
The fact is that both the DWP and HMRC have become almost completely unaccountable and I believe it’s quite intentional.
The conspiracist in me tells me that this is deliberate, but we all know its just down to good ol’ fashioned DWP/Atos?Capita incompetence
I’m not so sure.
This article in the Grauniad painted to me a world in which The System would make life so intolerable for individual claimants that they’d give up on it.
Seems to be what’s happening. Getting the claimant caseload down by attrition instead of through more restrictive decision making.
Another hollowed out theorist who’s only ever walked in the rarefied atmosphere of Capitol Hill and academia.
http://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/politics/faculty/mead/mead_vitae.pdf
DWP and HMRC have become almost completely unaccountable and I believe it’s quite intentional.
One of the main reasons I dedicate more time to trying to help people through the Courts; they’re still accountable to someone...