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shawn mach
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Saw this in the press yesterday -

A former Wales international footballer who developed dementia had died after heading heavy leather balls during his career, an inquest heard on Thursday.

Alan Jarvis, 76, who played for Everton, Hull City and Mansfield Town during his career before retiring from the game at the age of 30, died at a nursing home at Mold, North Wales, last December. A coroner at Ruthin recorded a conclusion of death due to an industrial disease.

Coroner John Gittins said Jarvis had pneumonia as a result of Alzheimer’s disease. He said: “The situation is by no means unequivocal. It must be very clear I am not saying playing professional football always causes dementia.”

But, on the balance of probabilities, in the case of Jarvis his previous occupation had been “a factor” in his decline. Gittins said there had been other recorded cases of a similar nature including that of footballer Jeff Astle. “There may well be more in the future as science catches up,” Gittins remarked.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/15/inquest-rules-heading-heavy-leather-balls-a-factor-in-death-of-alan-jarvis

Recall the IIAC looking at whether footballers are at an increased risk of dementia or motor neurone disease back in 2005 (and concluding not)

https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20090605214106/http://www.dwp.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/2005/nov/iiac241105-sports.asp

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Relative of a friend of my family (who all originate from Yr Wyddgrug/Mold).

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It is perfectly possible for a person to have an industrial disease but not to have any entitlement to IIDB.  Reasons could be:
• Disease is not “prescribed”
• Disease is prescribed, but not for that person’s occupation
• They are not an employed earner
• Disease not contracted during the course of their employment eg people who handle other people’s contaminated clothing

The importance of the coroner’s verdict is that it goes on the death certificate and is then submitted to ONS.  Such statistical data is used to inform decisions about prescription of industrial diseases.

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shawn mach - 16 October 2020 11:27 AM

Saw this in the press yesterday -

A former Wales international footballer who developed dementia had died after heading heavy leather balls during his career, an inquest heard on Thursday.

Alan Jarvis, 76, who played for Everton, Hull City and Mansfield Town during his career before retiring from the game at the age of 30, died at a nursing home at Mold, North Wales, last December. A coroner at Ruthin recorded a conclusion of death due to an industrial disease.

Coroner John Gittins said Jarvis had pneumonia as a result of Alzheimer’s disease. He said: “The situation is by no means unequivocal. It must be very clear I am not saying playing professional football always causes dementia.”

But, on the balance of probabilities, in the case of Jarvis his previous occupation had been “a factor” in his decline. Gittins said there had been other recorded cases of a similar nature including that of footballer Jeff Astle. “There may well be more in the future as science catches up,” Gittins remarked.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/15/inquest-rules-heading-heavy-leather-balls-a-factor-in-death-of-alan-jarvis

Recall the IIAC looking at whether footballers are at an increased risk of dementia or motor neurone disease back in 2005 (and concluding not)

https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20090605214106/http://www.dwp.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/2005/nov/iiac241105-sports.asp

Jeff Ashley ex West Brom Is another example. He died of dementia over 10 years ago. His daughter has led a campaign about this. I feel sure if you contact WBA, the club will put you in touch with Astles’ daughter.

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Many years ago in a different job in a different location, a former professional footballer came in for some advice.  He was already in receipt of IIDB (not without some difficulty, as far as I remember) but his injury was directly attributable to one hard tackle in the early 70s, when football was a proper game.  Able to draw a great diagram of the field of play.  Was it Tommy Smith who was responsible?  I can’t remember to be honest.

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ROBBO - 21 October 2020 09:20 AM

Many years ago in a different job in a different location, a former professional footballer came in for some advice.  He was already in receipt of IIDB (not without some difficulty, as far as I remember) but his injury was directly attributable to one hard tackle in the early 70s, when football was a proper game.  Able to draw a great diagram of the field of play.  Was it Tommy Smith who was responsible?  I can’t remember to be honest.

Poor old sadly departed Tommy Smith had his disability benefits downgraded after being persuaded to take a single penalty kick for charity back in the day.

Tommy Smith pays penalty for disability claim