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Juanita Banana
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Hi

Does anyone have or have had in the past, a training grade post for a WRO? and if so would you be willing to share the job description for this with me?

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Pete C
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How about this - “Wanted - sad obsessive anorak , fully paid up member of the awkward squad willing to work long hours for very modest reward,sense of humour vital” (or am I just describing myself?)

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Don’t forget ...“beard essential, must like real ale and must regularly read the Guardian. Must have world weary expression and previously received poor careers advice at school”

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‘People will always need plates’ was our careers advice…....and specific to me when I suggested a ‘social work’ type job ‘don’t you think you’ll have enough problems of your own to deal with’.........

Well, it’s almost Friday ;-)

Juanita Banana
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Perfect. And in the ‘desirable’ section:

‘must look as though you have been hit by a charity shop donations truck on the way to work’ and ‘must own at least one home made jumper’

I can only speak for myself of course!

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Welfare Rights Adviser required.  Must have at least 12 months experience in an advice setting, preferably without swearing down the phone at the DWP, swearing at the computer because it won’t perform a function in a nanosecond or slagging off clients with your colleagues.

Essential skills include writing, arguing and the ability to pour scorn on the drafters of obscure legislation for a full half hour without repeating yourself.  Desirable skills include being able to use a stapler for more than 3 months without knackering it, the ability to destaple papers without ripping them to shreds and the ability, while on the phone, to refrain from turning to your colleagues and saying “if I hear Vivaldi’s 4 seasons one more ‘effin time….”

Benefits include 32 days paid holiday per annum, a generous employer’s pension scheme and a beautifully crafted redundancy letter in 6 months time when all the lights go out.

1964
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Thank you for making my day.

Stevegale
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You just hit one of my sore spots. Vivaldi! Why, why, why can’t the DLA unit get some different damned music on their telephony system. Anything would do, but not the Four Seasons! Surely his descendants could bring some sort of legal action against the DWP for misuse!!!!!

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This is absolutely true, I swear.  In the 1990’s I was on hold to Liverpool’s HB department and the music was Barret Strong’s Money, that’s what I want, (who he?  Some of you might remember The Beatle’s version).  Aaanyway!  At least someone had a sense of humour.

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How about that old depression classic “buddy can you spare a dime”

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Stevegale - 06 July 2011 05:26 PM

Don’t forget ...“beard essential, must like real ale and must regularly read the Guardian. Must have world weary expression and previously received poor careers advice at school”

Just noticed this and Juanita’s post about charity shops- all of these apply to me so I have come to the rather scary conclusion that I was some how genetically destined to become a welf and not the astronaut I wanted to be when I was 12.

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I’d just like to point out that for those WELFs struggling to comply with the stereotypical image that the CAMRA Real Ale festival is on in London in a few weeks. http://gbbf.camra.org.uk/home  Obviously you can get CPD points once you have completed the tasting of a pint of Farmer Jack’s Mouldy Socks. However, you may not be capable of calculating an applicable amount for some days afterwards.

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re Vivaldi- why doesn’t each branch of the DWP have its own , appropriate, on-hold music, for example;

Child Benefit - ‘The wheels on the bus go round and round’

Debt Management - ‘Approaching Menace’ (AKA the ‘Mastermind’ theme)

The R2R office in Wick -‘Somewhere beyond the Sea’ (Bobby Darin)

ESA - ‘Say Hello, Wave (it) Goodbye’  (Soft Cell)

Tax Credits - I was going to go for Taxman by the Beatles but I thought it was a bit obvious so I settled on ‘Its a Mystery ’ by Toyah Wilcox

Ian Duncan Smith - My Way (Frank Sinatra)

David Cameron - Je n’regret rien (Edith Piaf)

I can feel a compilation CD coming on.

(Sorry. I’ll do some work now!)

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Excellent!  Please continue?

Stevegale
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Think there should be a prize for the best…

Ryan Bradshaw
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DWP Contact Centre - hanging on the telephone (The Nerves [NOT BLONDIE!!])

nevip
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And, of course, Back in the DHSS - Half Man Half Biscuit.

Tom H
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Late Appeals section - “Give me just a little more time/And our love will surely grow” - Kylie

Stevegale
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Make it ESA on Yourself (Walker Brothers, 1965 - Yes, I am that old).....Good one for Atos. OK, its terrible!

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I recently had cause to phone Aviva Insurance on behalf of a client.  I was played a message which asked me to choose what style music I would like to listen to while I was waiting on hold.  Although I was given several options of music style these did not include either “total silence” or “why don’t we just answer your call quickly and dispense with the music?”.    Lets hope that DWP doesn’t follow suit.

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Stevegale - 15 July 2011 05:30 PM

Make it ESA on Yourself (Walker Brothers, 1965 - Yes, I am that old).....Good one for Atos. OK, its terrible!

you forgot the next line -  “‘cos paying up is sooo very hard to dooo….......”

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I still don’t quite believe there really is an office at Wick. I think they’re actually located in a secret bunker somewhere.

Tonto
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we’ll meet again - Dame Vera Lynn - got to be better than vivaldi

Lorraine Cooper
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I’ve been phoning Tax Credits long enough to remember endless loops of Let It Be. Anything else is an improvement.

Stevegale
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I went to Wick once on a bus from Thurso….It was er…..closed.

Tom H
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You need a right to reside to get in.

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Stevegale - 18 July 2011 05:14 PM

I went to Wick once on a bus from Thurso….It was er…..closed.

No it wasn’t, they spotted the beard, real ale and charity shop jumper so they all hid until you went away

Stevegale
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I wondered why it was quiet!

Joe Collins
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Re replacing Vivaldi, how about utilising The Smiths/Morrissey back catalogue for different branches of the DWP. Some suggestions;

Sure Start Maternity Grant-    Some girls are bigger than others

ICB/ESA-      Still ill

Fraud-      Shoplifters of the world unite

Funeral grant-  First of the gang to die

JSA-  (I was looking for a job and then I found a job and) Heaven knows i’m miserable now

And for those few poor souls caught by s73(8) Social Security Contributions And Benefits Act 1992 -  Girlfriend in a coma


I really, really must get out more.

Pete C
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The best ones yet!

Juanita Banana
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You will be pleased to know that I have now completed 1 Trainee Welfare Rights Officer JD/PS.