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Irregular UC and regular pay – A solution that also ends the 5 week wait?

Gareth Morgan
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I’ve looked for a practical way, quickly done with existing RTI data, that could smooth irregular UC with regular earnings.  My suggestion could also remove the need for a 5 week wait. Please comment at https://benefitsinthefuture.com/irregular-uc-and-regular-pay-a-solution-that-also-ends-the-5-week-wait/

I think this could be done quickly, with obvious advantages - but I’ve been wrong before.  Comments and thoughts welcome.

Mkfiftyeight
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Gareth

An excellent piece of work, I think I understood all you have said and demostrated. It seems to make sense and could well work.

The bit I am not too bright with, but it should not prevent your method from working is below..

Someone currently working for company C, a long time after finishing work with company A and B they unexpectedly receive one off earnings payments from A or A and B? Admittedly, this is likely to be rare, but it happened to me many years ago when I received two cheques through the post because a fault in the pay system was discovered long after I had left.

No need to reply as I am sure you have the answer and a lot on at the moment.  Perhaps I just need to read through your model again, if so that is enough of a reply for me.

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Mkfiftyeight - 24 March 2020 03:05 PM

Someone currently working for company C, a long time after finishing work with company A and B they unexpectedly receive one off earnings payments from A or A and B? Admittedly, this is likely to be rare, but it happened to me many years ago when I received two cheques through the post because a fault in the pay system was discovered long after I had left.

Presumably it should be associated with the period that you worked for them.  I don’t know how the tax system deals with late payments for previous tax years.  The 2 alternative approaches are:

a) Take it into account now, for the length of time it was paid for.
b) Back assess any entitlements for the original period that it should have been paid for,

UC does neither, it just takes the lot for this AP and might generate a surplus earnings figure as well.

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Gareth

Had another look and I think the scenario I described of numerous payments can work. Assuming the number of days are identifiable then it could fit into your table 5 the line towards the end with 52 days.


Agree about the surplus earnings, but I was not paid enough to take me there!