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Full time student age 21 on DLA. Taken off ESA after WCA. Does this not come under reg 33?

JAS1
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Hi,

I am a bit confused whether a 21 year old student who is on a “Pathways to Independence” course full time at college should have had a WCA or not. This particular student was called for a WCA and then taken off ESA after being found to not have LCW. They get DLA.

Would this person not come under reg 33 and therefore not need a WCA?

I am thinking that if someone is a ‘qualifying young person’ they do not fall under this, and will need to satisfy the WCA as usual.

However I am fairly sure this particular person was over the age of 20 at the time of the WCA, therefore they can’t be a qualifying young person can they? So they should then not be required to satisfy the WCA?

Or have I got things the wrong way round?

Just checking if I should be challenging the WCA decision or challenging why they even did one in the first place!

Thanks

[ Edited: 25 Jul 2017 at 09:10 am by JAS1 ]
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challenging why they did one, I think.

He’s not a qualifying young person because he’s over 20 (welbens pg 573)

He qualifies for ir-ESA as a full time student because he gets DLA and therefore

“you automatically count as having LCW” (pg 881)

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Thanks for confirming my suspicions Sally. If this does turn out to be the case with this client, then it’s another fine example of DWP ignoring their own rules again.

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I thought they’d be entitled to carry out a WCA to test if a student should qualify for the Support Group.

Whether being found to have no LCW at all can be legitimate outcome of such a WCA is another matter.

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Thanks Jon. I will write to them to challenge their decision.

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Jon (CHDCA) - 21 July 2017 01:02 PM

Whether being found to have no LCW at all can be legitimate outcome of such a WCA is another matter.

I don’t think it can; reg 33(2) is imperative “a claimant is to be treated as having LCW if…” and reg 34(4)(c) does not exclude any particular statuses.