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Semitone
                              

welfare rights officer, Redcar & Cleveland Welfare Rights
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

1984 and here comes Orwell
Tue 05-Jun-07 03:27 PM

This is a lulu.

Client went to brothers over christmas after being told by JC+ that didnt have to sign. Came back to be told should have signed, no benefit, tuff. Going to appeal and in papers there is a JC+ computor record of telephone call to client when he didnt sign on asking him to contact jobcentre.

Client has no phone, no mobile, zilch

Information commissioner or should we just don a black cap

  

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RE: 1984 and here comes Orwell, ariadne2, 05th Jun 2007, #1
RE: 1984 and here comes Orwell, Semitone, 06th Jun 2007, #2
RE: 1984 and here comes Orwell, Andy Hamilton, 07th Jun 2007, #3

ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: 1984 and here comes Orwell
Tue 05-Jun-07 03:54 PM

Try to persuade the Chair to ask JCP what number they used to ring him on? Do you often have POs in your neck of the woods: it would be interesting if so. Not that the poor sods often have the whole file anyway, but you might get an amusing little adjournment if they haven't.

Alternatively of course you argue that if the mucked this up they could muck anything up and their evidence isn't worth the paper it isn't printed on...but you were going to do that anyway.

  

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Semitone
                              

welfare rights officer, Redcar & Cleveland Welfare Rights
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: 1984 and here comes Orwell
Wed 06-Jun-07 10:51 AM

Absolutely. Fun and games on this one. Interested in your reference to POs. Now in a very dim corner of my memory I think that stands for Presenting Officer. Nope-haven' seen one for an age. Might insist on one being there for this case though. Especially when we tell them a complaint going to Info Commissioner that DWP are falsifying customer records.

So much for data protection.

  

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Andy Hamilton
                              

Money Adviser, Leicester Money Advice, Leicester
Member since
16th May 2007

RE: 1984 and here comes Orwell
Thu 07-Jun-07 04:27 PM

Just a guess here.

You say that the JCP rang the client asking him to contact them; this implies they left an answer message. If the client had a phone when they first claimed and noted it on the claim form this will be on the JCP computer system. If he has since got rid of it they would still have the number on the system.

  

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