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degree level apprenticeships

Glenys
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Anyone come across degree level apprenticeships before?
https://www.ucas.com/alternatives/apprenticeships/apprenticeships-england/what-apprenticeships-are-available/degree-apprenticeships

Struggling to work out if someone on one of these would count as a student 9in which case further questions would need to be asked) or as an apprenticeship (in which case different further questions would need to be asked!)

Thanks!

stevenmcavoy
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i think the fact it says “employed” suggests to me that its an apprenticeship where they are an employee rather than a student.

Glenys
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That’s what I’m hoping!

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It looks like employment to me.  When I served my time as an engineer in the 1970’s I was wholly employed by the company and doing one day per week at the local college (known as day release) did not make me a student in any way.  I think the same applies here.

“How do they differ from sandwich degrees and work placements?

Degree apprenticeships build on the existing models of sandwich degrees (spending a year in industry) and work placements (doing industry placements in term time or holidays), but differ in several key ways:
• Degree apprentices are employed throughout and are doing paid work from day one.
• Employers may view these apprenticeships as a way of recruiting top prospective graduates.
• Degree apprentices are likely to have a greater attachment to their employer, and already being employed means they are more likely to stay with that company afterwards. Retention rates for apprentices can exceed 80%.
• In cases where a new degree is developed, employers will be able to work with universities to shape the overall degree programme and all aspects of their apprentice’s training.”

https://www.ucas.com/alternatives/apprenticeships/apprenticeships-england/what-apprenticeships-are-available/degree-apprenticeships

“5. As an apprentice, you’ve got employee rights.

A fifth of those we surveyed thought apprentices aren’t eligible to receive the same benefits as other employees, and a further 35% weren’t sure. Right? Wrong. As well as gaining hands-on training and learning as an apprentice, you are also, essentially, a company employee. This means you have the same rights as the rest of the workforce, including pay (of at least the apprenticeship minimum wage), holiday entitlements and other benefits”.

https://www.ucas.com/alternatives/apprenticeships/seven-things-you-didnt-know-about-higher-and-degree-apprenticeships-should

Greg
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Remember that it’s not merely being a student which is pertinent but whether the claimant is a full-time student. Which in the case of a graduate-level apprenticeship where employment takes up 80% of the programme (or thereabouts), they’re obviously not full-time.