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A new one for me with a debt dispute.

Gareth Morgan
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A debt issue.  An elderly friend of mine has been getting letters from TalkTalk alleging a debt.  No details of what it’s meant to be for and has now been passed to a debt collector.  He’s not aware of any purchase or contract.  He doesn’t have a mobile phone, or working computer.  TalkTalk have just been writing to him, saying “go online to your My Account” when he’s contacted them; so he asked me to help and gave me written authorisation.

TalkTalk will not deal with me at all, they say, unless I have “A Power of Attorney, which is Registered with the Office of the Public Guardian”.

I’m somewhat boggled.

Va1der
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Probably don’t have any solutions you haven’t thought of already.

Might be worthwhile putting him in touch with a debt advice agency, just because they may have useful tools available such as escalation numbers/emails to TalkTalk, or at the very least can send a letter to negotiate a moratorium (I forget what the processes are in Wales).

If you’re just after information you could always send them a subject access request. They can’t legally refuse the info to a mandated third party. Although, they might still try, so unlikely to be a timely solution.

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You can send a snail mail to:
TalkTalk (TTR)
PO Box 675
Salford
M5 0NL
https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Articles/How-do-I-make-a-complaint/ta-p/2204670

Gareth Morgan
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I got to the complaints level email contact address, in itself not easy, and it’s they who won’t talk.

Marc Allison (CHAP)
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I’d quote the FCA CONC 7.12.2

“A firm must not:

(1) refuse to deal with a not-for-profit debt advice body, debt counsellor, debt adjuster or with another person acting on behalf of a customer, unless there is an objectively justifiable reason for doing so;
[Note: paragraphs 3.9c of DCG and 3.48 of DMG]”

And lodge an official complaint, works wonders for our agency.

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You can complain via http://www.resolver.co.uk - its a super easy process.

The site will remind you when you can escalate your complaint to the next level, if you are not happy with their reply.

I have made numerous complaints against TalkTalk and unfortunately on all occasions it had to reach CISAS.

Good luck.

nevip
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Are you sure this is not a scam?

Andrew Dutton
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Sounds as if they have been learning from DWP.

Gareth Morgan
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nevip - 01 July 2021 04:05 PM

Are you sure this is not a scam?

I’m pretty sure that it is.  He’s a retired BT phone engineer and would never dream of leaving BT.

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Marc Allison (CHAP) - 01 July 2021 01:50 PM

I’d quote the FCA CONC 7.12.2


Aha.  Thanks.

Jon (CANY)
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I can imagine why they might cautious, if Talktalk received a letter from someone who is not (I assume?) authorised by the FCA to provide debt counselling, that was only backed up by a written letter of consent, to which they likely don’t have a specimen signature for comparison.
The FCA have a fairly nuanced approach to acting on behalf of vulnerable customers, see para 82 of the annex here: https://www.fca.org.uk/publication/guidance-consultation/gc19-03.pdf

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I would be fairly certain that this is a scam, and that somebody has taken out a phone contract with TalkTalk using the client’s personal details.

I say this because someone attempted the same thing with me.  I realised from the outset that it was an attempted scam, and emerged unscathed.  It would be very easy for someone less vigilant to fall for it.

I recommend making a subject access request to credit reference agencies.    Also write to TalkTalk either on your client’s behalf with FoA, or draft a letter for them.