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Verification of med 3s
This has been bugging me.
UC claimants need to provide their med3s for verification by the Jobcentre but NSESA claimant’s don’t.
Another way of othering UC claimant’s maybe?
So you can’t upload them online for UC Dan? - I see the gov.uk page does only say for the ESA claim - I can query that via stakeholders…
So you can’t upload them online for UC Dan? - I see the gov.uk page does only say for the ESA claim - I can query that via stakeholders…
Yes. For UC you put the dates into the journal, click thorugh and it asks for the details of the doctor that provided the cert, then you have to take the note to JCP for them to verify it.
For NSESA you just upload it and have done with it.
Discriminatory to my mind.
you’ve got to love the way they want everything electronic/online - except useful things like uploading documents if you actually can….
tongue firmly in cheek, of course…
I think my point is that they don’t trust UC claimants not to forge med3s but they do NSESA claimants. I wonder, if it’s a dual claim; UC plus NSESA, they claimant verifies through UC or through NSESA
But irESA claimants are able to upload med3 certs online aren’t they?
I think my point is that they don’t trust UC claimants not to forge med3s but they do NSESA claimants. I wonder, if it’s a dual claim; UC plus NSESA, they claimant verifies through UC or through NSESA
For dual claims, our local Jobcentre Plus has told us to take the fit note in to the Jobcentre for the UC part AND upload the fit note for the NSESA part
Reply via stakeholders forum -
‘... the issue of uploading medical evidence is one of the features being considered but there is no firm date yet on when this will become a workable feature on the Service. We will be out to let you know as soon as there’s any news.’
Bump
I’ve just thought that there’s probably an article 14 issue built into this.
The way you report the med3 on the journal demands that you enter an start date and end date. Hospital inpatients often get med10s that; especially in a mental health setting, are “UFN”... Until Further Notice. They can’t be reported on the journal and we’ve tried emailing them and posting them in but they76 never get acknowledged on the journal.
Using the same system as NSESA where you just scan it would solve it.
Hospital inpatients are plainly an article 14 category.
If anyone thinks this is actionable, we see a lot of this as we’ve an inpatient inreach service, you’ve probably got my number already but if not inbox me.
Bump
I’ve just thought that there’s probably an article 14 issue built into this.
The way you report the med3 on the journal demands that you enter an start date and end date. Hospital inpatients often get med10s that; especially in a mental health setting, are “UFN”... Until Further Notice. They can’t be reported on the journal and we’ve tried emailing them and posting them in but they never get acknowledged on the journal.
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that’s just bizarre. many people can end up in long term hospital with serious things wrong….
Bump
I’ve just thought that there’s probably an article 14 issue built into this.
The way you report the med3 on the journal demands that you enter an start date and end date. Hospital inpatients often get med10s that; especially in a mental health setting, are “UFN”... Until Further Notice. They can’t be reported on the journal and we’ve tried emailing them and posting them in but they76 never get acknowledged on the journal.
Using the same system as NSESA where you just scan it would solve it.
Hospital inpatients are plainly an article 14 category.
If anyone thinks this is actionable, we see a lot of this as we’ve an inpatient inreach service, you’ve probably got my number already but if not inbox me.
You could contact CPAG or Leigh Day maybe Dan?
You could contact CPAG or Leigh Day maybe Dan?
Advice I’ve already had suggests that the interminable efforts we have to make to get the Work Coach to pay attention to our yelling “THEY’RE IN HOSPITAL” mitigate any detriment to the claimant that might lead to an action, sadly.
The whole process is dubious but finding someone, or an agency, with enough of an interest and enough of a motive, to do something about it is proving to be a struggle.
Bump
I’ve just thought that there’s probably an article 14 issue built into this.
The way you report the med3 on the journal demands that you enter an start date and end date. Hospital inpatients often get med10s that; especially in a mental health setting, are “UFN”... Until Further Notice. They can’t be reported on the journal and we’ve tried emailing them and posting them in but they76 never get acknowledged on the journal.
Using the same system as NSESA where you just scan it would solve it.
Hospital inpatients are plainly an article 14 category.
If anyone thinks this is actionable, we see a lot of this as we’ve an inpatient inreach service, you’ve probably got my number already but if not inbox me.
I used to work in a mental health hospital myself and the crazy thing was that the Med 10s were acceptable by ESA with no problem at all. UC was a different kettle of fish. One job coach told me that the Med 10 was not a fit note as it didn’t show the patients condition.