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wba
                              

welfare benefits adviser, age concern, south lakeland
Member since
02nd Feb 2004

Pension Credit and Equity release.
Wed 06-Apr-05 10:23 AM

I have recently been told by the Northern Rock building society that any regular income generated by an equity release scheme is ignored for Pension Credit purposes , and not included as income when calculating entitlement to PC.I didn't think this was correct but can find nothing in CPAG reagarding this question.My client receives £300 per month by way of an equity release scheme and if it is ignored then we should apply for PC.
Any information gratefully received. Thankyou.

  

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RE: Pension Credit and Equity release., Gareth Morgan, 06th Apr 2005, #1
RE: Pension Credit and Equity release., alban, 06th Apr 2005, #2
RE: Pension Credit and Equity release., wba, 12th Apr 2005, #3

Gareth Morgan
                              

Managing Director, Ferret Information Systems, Cardiff
Member since
20th Feb 2004

RE: Pension Credit and Equity release.
Wed 06-Apr-05 01:39 PM

This may or may not be the case.

PC tends to specify income taken into account and it was the case that equity release income was not in the list.

This was changed by The Social Security (Housing Benefit, Council Tax Benefit, State Pension Credit and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2004
Laid before Parliament September 2004
Coming into force
for the purposes of regulations 1, 2(10)(a)(iii) and (iv) and (b) and (22), 3(4), (10)(a)(iii) and (iv) and (b) and (22) and 7(1) to (4) and (6) 4th October 2004
for the purposes of regulation 8 6th October 2004
for all other purposes 4th April 2005

The relevant chunk says:
"Amendment of the State Pension Credit Regulations 2002
1.—(1) The State Pension Credit Regulations 2002( ) shall be amended in accordance with the following provisions of this regulation.
(2) In regulation 1(2) (interpretation), after the definition of “Eileen Trust” insert—
““equity release scheme” means a loan—
(a) made between a person (“the lender”) and the claimant;
(b) by means of which a sum of money is advanced by the lender to the claimant by way of payments at regular intervals; and
(c) which is secured on a dwelling in which the claimant owns an estate or interest and which he occupies as his home;”.
(3) At the end of regulation 15(5) (income for the purposes of the Act), add—
“(j) any payment made at regular intervals under an equity release scheme.”.
(4) At the end of regulation 16 (retirement pension income), add—
“(m) any payment made at regular intervals under an equity release scheme.”.
...."

The real ER experts are not sure whether the drafting catches the intent of the regulations (specifically they have doubts about the definition of equity release) but those intentions are clear.

What is not caught, we think, is capital which is drawn down *at the customers request* or which is paid irregularly.

What kind of scheme is it? Capital or income; drawdown or staged etc?

  

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alban
                              

Income Project Officer, Age Concern England, Norbury
Member since
27th Jan 2004

RE: Pension Credit and Equity release.
Wed 06-Apr-05 01:51 PM

Hi
Up until October 2004 income from equity release schemes was treated differently depending on how the scheme was set up and only annuity-based income was taken into account for PC (and HB/CTB). This changed from 4/10/04.

Here is the item from Rightsnet news section
http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/cgi-bin/forwardsql/search.cgi?template2=user_details2.htm&output_number=1&news.ID=930162417914

Anyone who was assessed for PC with an assessed income period before 4/10/04 shouldn't be affected by these changes until their AIP is reassessed, but new PC claimants (assuming their claim isn't backdated before October 04) will have any income from equity release taken into account.

Age Concern Information Sheet 7 has very good information on this
http://www.ageconcern.org.uk/AgeConcern/media/IS7equityreleaseOct04.pdf

alban


  

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wba
                              

welfare benefits adviser, age concern, south lakeland
Member since
02nd Feb 2004

RE: Pension Credit and Equity release.
Tue 12-Apr-05 09:54 AM

Thankyou for your replies.
Jane King
Welfare Benefits Adviser.
Age Concern South Lakeland.

  

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