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kkev
                              

Nightstop Project Worker, NIghtstop Devon
Member since
21st Apr 2010

Estranged but started course after 19th birthday
Wed 21-Apr-10 02:11 PM

One of my clients is currently in full-time non-advanced education.

She has been living at home, but the behaviour of her parents is adversely affecting her mental health (in quite a serious way) and her studies. She needs to move out and has grounds to claim estrangement.

However, she is currently 20 and started the course after her 19th birthday, thus cannot claim IS. Are there any benefits that she could be eligible for, or does she simply have to drop out of College and look for work?

Also, if things come to a head and she becomes homeless, will she have to formally quit education before she is able to access benefits?

Many Thanks

  

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RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday, ariadne2, 21st Apr 2010, #1
RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday, kkev, 22nd Apr 2010, #2
      RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday, nevip, 22nd Apr 2010, #3
           RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday, nevip, 22nd Apr 2010, #4
                RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday, ariadne2, 22nd Apr 2010, #5
                     RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday, notts advisor, 04th May 2010, #6

ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday
Wed 21-Apr-10 04:55 PM

What about doing a part-time course and claiming jsa?

  

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kkev
                              

Nightstop Project Worker, NIghtstop Devon
Member since
21st Apr 2010

RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday
Thu 22-Apr-10 09:11 AM

thanks - that's a possibility i could put to her. it'd be a shame because she is planning to go to university and she is getting top grades on her course.

seems that she's stuck in a catch-22 situation - i don't like advising people to stop studying but it seems like she's going to have to stop entirely, or go part-time.

  

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nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday
Thu 22-Apr-10 09:25 AM

There is nothing to stop someone studying full time and getting JSA. As long as you are actively seeking work and available for work and you remain flexible as to how you can fit 40 hours work in per week (i.e. evenings and weekends, as well as daytime) then it is all about agreeing the terms of the jobseekers agreement with the employment officer. The other key being, of course, a willingness to give up the course and start work immediately if offered a job.

Employment officers should be flexible in their approach and work with claimants for future beneficial outcomes rather than be intransigent and dogmatic with an eye only on short-term targets and statistics.

  

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nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday
Thu 22-Apr-10 09:33 AM

Just to add, providing you are one of those students entitled to claim JSA.

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday
Thu 22-Apr-10 06:14 PM

Big proviso, that.

  

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notts advisor
                              

welfare rights officer, nottingham city council
Member since
10th Mar 2010

RE: Estranged but started course after 19th birthday
Tue 04-May-10 12:32 PM

Is the course definately full time for JSA purposes?

I only ask because I used to work in an FE, and a lot of what the college described as FT courses were actually part time for the purposes of JSA, i.e. 16 or fewer hours per week 'guided learning hours' (basically classroom time). Lunch and coffee breaks at college, and time spent on homework etc, is ignored when calculating this. As long as the course is funded by the Learning and Skills Council or Scottish or Welsh equivalents (i.e. the vast majority of FE courses as far as I am aware) this rule applies, regardless of the fact that the college may say it is a FT course.


  

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