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gerdarhondda
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser, Community Care, Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council
Member since
30th Jan 2004

Income Support and Section 117 Refunds
Fri 23-Jul-04 04:16 PM


Some months ago there were several postings about this but I cannot find them back.

The situation I have to deal with is not straight forward but is Section 117 related.

A young client who is still under Section 117 was placed in a care home and was charged for care from her benefits. The home was her appointee. Apparently the home is now planning to make a refund of the charge made which may amount to a sum of between £7,000 to £10,000. The client is moving to supported housing in the community
and obviously I want to make sure that she should remain entitled to benefit.

The social worker seems to think that the NHS had been funding the care and it was the home 's mistake that the charged the client but I have not had this confirmed

Therefore I would like to contact anybody who can give me more information how the repayments were treated for Income Support because I may be able to argue that this payment is 'analogous'

Thanks very much

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds, shawn, 24th Jul 2004, #1
RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds, gerdarhondda, 26th Jul 2004, #2
RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds, Dave Coughlan, 26th Jul 2004, #3
RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds, Peter Patton, 29th Jul 2004, #4

shawn
                              

Charter member

RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds
Sat 24-Jul-04 09:27 AM

couple of threads from the old forum may be what you'd remembered?

http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forum/otherbenefits/499.html

http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forum/otherbenefits/388.html

  

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gerdarhondda
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser, Community Care, Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council
Member since
30th Jan 2004

RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds
Mon 26-Jul-04 09:24 AM

Thanks Shaun

  

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Dave Coughlan
                              

Benefits Adviser, Springfield Hospital, London
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds
Mon 26-Jul-04 10:23 AM

I have an appeal hearing on Thursday (first one) for a client who has received S117 "refund". Have a number of arguments to use and will post decision and any interesting/relevant info that comes out.

  

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Peter Patton
                              

Client Benefits Manager, The Regard Partnership, Kingston on Thames, Surrey
Member since
29th Jul 2004

RE: Income Support and Section 117 Refunds
Thu 29-Jul-04 10:52 AM

Dealt with same type of case last year; this client received refund of some £25000; there was no benefits rule or Regulation I could find that treated this refund in any way other than under the usual capital and savings rules. As you probably know there is an easement when lump sums of benefits arrears are paid, but S117 refunds are not that and it would be hard I think to sustain a line that the s117 refunds were analgous to that. But if anyone has obtained s better result I would be pleased to know.

  

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