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gaynaphelps
                              

manager, the benefits shop, dudley, west midlands
Member since
26th Jan 2005

Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Fri 01-Apr-05 02:27 PM

Has anyone come across claimant receiving backdated lump sum payment for attending meetings, and how that affected their IB? I've never come across, and neither has our local DWP - they don't know how they'd treat such a payment and say they would have to "send it off for specialist advice"!

  

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RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, whitegates, 05th Apr 2005, #1
RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, gaynaphelps, 06th Apr 2005, #3
      RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, chrisduran, 14th Apr 2005, #7
RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, Derekbell, 06th Apr 2005, #2
RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, gaynaphelps, 06th Apr 2005, #4
RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, JudyScott, 07th Apr 2005, #5
      RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, gaynaphelps, 07th Apr 2005, #6
RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments, chrisduran, 14th Apr 2005, #8

whitegates
                              

welfare rights officer, east dunbartonshire council
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Tue 05-Apr-05 01:58 PM

Are the meetings council meetings? If so, try sec. 30E, SSCBA 1992.
Regards.

  

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gaynaphelps
                              

manager, the benefits shop, dudley, west midlands
Member since
26th Jan 2005

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Wed 06-Apr-05 04:07 PM

Not Council meetings - attending various meetings with NHS - user/consultation groups
Thanks

  

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chrisduran
                              

Into-work facilitator, London Borough of Newham, Social Regeneration Unit
Member since
10th Mar 2004

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Thu 14-Apr-05 03:21 PM

Could these payments possibly be payment of expenses?

In which case it shouldn't count as income at all

  

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Derekbell
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Scottish Borders Council
Member since
11th Feb 2004

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Wed 06-Apr-05 02:57 PM

I had a client who received a lump sum payment for therapeutic work done. DWP treated this as a capital payment. The payment was made as a 'reward' for the work he had done as he had not been paid a weekly wage.

  

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gaynaphelps
                              

manager, the benefits shop, dudley, west midlands
Member since
26th Jan 2005

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Wed 06-Apr-05 04:08 PM

Thanks - that's helpful
Will see if anyone else around the country comes back with anything else, and then "suggest" to our local DWP that they do this!

  

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JudyScott
                              

Independent Consultant, Incapacity Benefits and Employment law
Member since
12th May 2004

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Thu 07-Apr-05 10:05 AM

You might also be able to argue that the lump sum is 'averaged' over the pay period (from when the meetings began to when the lump sum was paid).
Judy Scott

  

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gaynaphelps
                              

manager, the benefits shop, dudley, west midlands
Member since
26th Jan 2005

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Thu 07-Apr-05 11:43 AM

thanks - I "suggested" that to local DWP - they were VERY unsure!

  

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chrisduran
                              

Into-work facilitator, London Borough of Newham, Social Regeneration Unit
Member since
10th Mar 2004

RE: Voluntary/permitted work - backdated payments
Thu 14-Apr-05 03:28 PM

I agree, irregular charitable or voluntary payments should be treated as capital, unless they are disregarded altogether as expenses

  

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