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Tony Bowman
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
25th Nov 2004

Legal help cases and housing benefit
Tue 07-Feb-06 02:33 PM

The eligibility guidance on the LSC website says that payments of housing benefit are ignored as income, but on the financial eligibility form (allownaces section) it asks for rent net of housing benefit - effectively taking housing benefit as income...

Can anyone shed any light on this apparent contradiction?

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit, jj, 07th Feb 2006, #1
RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit, Andrew_Fisher, 08th Feb 2006, #2
      RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit, jj, 08th Feb 2006, #3
           RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit, Andrew_Fisher, 08th Feb 2006, #4
                RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit, jj, 08th Feb 2006, #5

jj
                              

welfare rights adviser, saltley & nechells law centre birmingham
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit
Tue 07-Feb-06 02:50 PM

the value of HB is not added in to the calculation of gross income, but in deducting allowable expenses in order to arrive at net disposable income, only the rent a person has to pay out of her pocket is deducted, not the total rent, if some HB is in payment. it does make sense, i think. for a change. : )

  

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Andrew_Fisher
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser, Stevenage Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit
Wed 08-Feb-06 08:22 AM

They originally had HB counted as gross income, and then full rent allowed as an expense, but quickly realised that nobody could do the calculation that way (or rather, nobody got it right, which is a slightly different thing). It also made families with large numbers of children more likely to fail the gross income test (this was before the ceiling for that was altered for families with large numbers of children) as they may well have been in larger houses attracting more HB in the first place.

They originally counted DLA in gross income and then knocked it off as an allowance too.

But, hey, they used to fund the Specialist Support Projects too didn't they? Let's not give 'em more credit than absolutely necessary Jan!

  

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jj
                              

welfare rights adviser, saltley & nechells law centre birmingham
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit
Wed 08-Feb-06 09:08 AM

Andrew, i don't expect them to care what 'we' think of them. Credit is for 'funders' to extend or withdraw, and the 'funded' should know their place and shut up. isn't that how it works?

  

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Andrew_Fisher
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser, Stevenage Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit
Wed 08-Feb-06 09:14 AM

fraid so Jan. They're going to cut all of our funding next year aren't they?

  

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jj
                              

welfare rights adviser, saltley & nechells law centre birmingham
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: Legal help cases and housing benefit
Wed 08-Feb-06 09:39 AM

i don't know what's going on, andrew, but the cuts in our contract could close us down for good in April. but we (law centre staff) are to blame, for our underperfomance against contract.

  

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