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past caring 2
                              

Caseworker, Mary Ward Legal Centre
Member since
17th Nov 2008

CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?
Wed 19-Nov-08 09:59 AM

I am (almost) certain that I dealt with a case a few months back where an A8 worker was able to claim CTC for his children who remained in Poland with their mother - was a joint claim with wife, iirc. Unfortunately, all this was with a different employer ("another country" ) so I can't now check the file. Am I imagining entitlement? - because I'm damned if I can find the reference in CPAG. Page number in CPAG would be useful if anyone can find it.

  

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RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?, mairir, 20th Nov 2008, #1
RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?, past caring 2, 20th Nov 2008, #2
      RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?, Damian, 21st Nov 2008, #3
           RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?, past caring 2, 21st Nov 2008, #4
                RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?, Damian, 28th Nov 2008, #5

mairir
                              

Advice Worker, Granton Information Centre, Edinburgh
Member since
16th Nov 2005

RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?
Thu 20-Nov-08 09:49 AM

CPAG page 1383 on....

Mairi

  

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past caring 2
                              

Caseworker, Mary Ward Legal Centre
Member since
17th Nov 2008

RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?
Thu 20-Nov-08 03:20 PM

Had already read that - I'm certain I recall a section somewhere else dealing specifically with the CTC question.

  

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Damian
                              

WRO(Health), Salford WRS
Member since
23rd May 2005

RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?
Fri 21-Nov-08 10:47 AM

The bit of law which covers it is Article 73 of Council Regulation (EEC) No. 1408/71 which provides that

“An employee or self-employed person subject to the legislation of a Member State shall be entitled, in respect of the members of his family who are residing in another Member State, to the family benefits provided for by the legislation of the former State, as if they were residing in that State, subject to the provisions of Annex VI”

I've got it for lots of client quoting this in CTC appeals. When you appeal they send it to the complex cases bit who are an illusive bunch now they are in Washington instead of Belfast but who usually change the decision in just a few weeks. Waste of time talking to the TCO about because they won't get it and they don't have a number for the complex cases people who live in a bunker in a secret location.

  

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past caring 2
                              

Caseworker, Mary Ward Legal Centre
Member since
17th Nov 2008

RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?
Fri 21-Nov-08 11:49 AM

Cheers.

Now comes the complex bit - he's on IB (actual, not IS) so clearly retains worker status for RtR purposes, but art. 73, if interpreted literally, would suggest he's precluded in this case......

  

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Damian
                              

WRO(Health), Salford WRS
Member since
23rd May 2005

RE: CTC for A8 worker when children resident abroad?
Fri 28-Nov-08 09:03 AM

The Child Benefit Office are being very careful in checking that one of my clients was in actual employment throughout a period where they are looking at paying arrears of CB. If there are any small gaps I will probably argue proportionality. I assume in your case he is on IB because he is not employed rather than because SSP has run out. If he is still in employment then he seems to be covered. There may be some milage in a proportionality argument if he has a clearly temporary condition with another job lined up at the end of it and is not unemployed for long. Otherwise I think you're probably stuck.

  

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