Manager, Walthamstow CAB Member since 24th Oct 2005
RE: Re: Huge amount of benefit unpaid to claimants... Tue 04-Nov-08 08:13 AM
I have had a quick look at the originating report. So far as overpayments are concerned (page 13) official error outruns just claimant error in IS, quite significantly in JSA, and is almost double the claimant error rate in PC. Its the other way round in HB.
Page 22 has a table on underpayments. Official error exceeds claimant error as the cause in IS and JSA, and significantly exceeds claimant error in PC and IB (watch out ESA!). Again, its the other way round in HB.
The report suggests that claimant error significantly outruns official error in DLA, and that there is no official error at all in carers allowance.
All data comes from a sample, so there are bound to be extrapolation risks.
welfare rights adviser, saltley & nechells law centre birmingham Member since 21st Jan 2004
RE: Re: Huge amount of benefit unpaid to claimants... Tue 04-Nov-08 02:22 PM
good point, but the closer you look at the report, the less it holds up... for example, look how 'fraud' is now defined
" Fraud: This includes all cases where: - the basic conditions for receipt of benefit, or the rate of benefit in payment, are not being met; - the customer can reasonably be expected to be aware of the effect on entitlement; and - benefit stops or reduces as a result of the review."
the estimated fraud figures at fig. 5A appear very estimated indeed, like 4B figures... eg there is no different category for remunerative work and earnings, as might be expected from experts in the field, the high amount attributed to addresses is suspicious, (since addresses aren't a major feature of conditions of entitlement), suggesting much use of administrative 'benefit stops as a result of the review', (and very likely started again shortly afterwards, shhh...)
welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool. Member since 22nd Jan 2004
RE: Re: Huge amount of benefit unpaid to claimants... Tue 04-Nov-08 03:29 PM
The DWP today announced its latest initiative aimed at encouraging the great unwashed to get off its collective backside, put down the fags and the cheeseburgers and get a life.
A spokesman said, “for far too long recipients of benefits have been languishing around on sofas while watching Tricia and chain-smoking. This cannot be allowed to continue. We are determined to tackle such fecklessness and make sure that the idle underclass finally gets what’s coming to them.
We aim to put in place schemes whereby the idle rich can frogmarch claimants down to cash point machines, dressed in bright orange jumpsuits and make them shine the shoes of those in the queue. The message needs to go out once and for all that the days of hanging around shopping precincts drinking cheap cans of white lightning are finally over. If claimants want their pittance (sorry I mean benefit) then they are going to have to give something back to society and I don’t mean the things they’ve knocked off from Poundstretcher”.