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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Tue 29-Sep-09 02:32 PM

Client was being paid IS as sick. His sick notes ran out on 08.07.2009. He's been very depressed and only just sought advice on this.

JCP say he has to make fresh claim for ESA but I'm wondering if he can reclaim his IB/IS and apply to have this backdated to when his IS stopped?

  

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RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, darlocab, 29th Sep 2009, #1
RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, suelees, 29th Sep 2009, #2
RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, Jane80, 30th Sep 2009, #3
RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, suelees, 30th Sep 2009, #4
RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, sovietleader, 30th Sep 2009, #5
RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, suelees, 30th Sep 2009, #6
      RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, sovietleader, 02nd Oct 2009, #7
           RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA, suelees, 02nd Oct 2009, #8

darlocab
                              

welfare benefits, darlington citizens advice bureau
Member since
03rd Mar 2009

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Tue 29-Sep-09 03:38 PM

Hi Sue,

has his IS claim been closed down or simply payments not made as no sick note ?

I would assume a sicknote covering the period in question with covering letter explaining why he had a problem obtaining his sicknote - should result in his payments being issued, IF his claim is still open -

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Tue 29-Sep-09 04:39 PM

Hmmm not my client and he seems to be unsure. I have a feeling it's closed down.

  

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Jane80
                              

Welfare Rights Officer, Notts County Council
Member since
27th Mar 2008

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Wed 30-Sep-09 07:18 AM

As long as the break between the old IS claim and the new IS claim is no more than 8 weeks then he can reclaim IS (CPAG p295). With backdating he should be able to link his new claim back to July as long as he can get the backdated sick notes.

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Wed 30-Sep-09 08:07 AM

this has been considered but it's longer than 8 weeks.

It's not looking promising.

  

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sovietleader
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Wirral Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
07th Sep 2009

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Wed 30-Sep-09 12:48 PM

He seems to have been submitting sick notes for a long time without a PCA, as I assume his claim started before the introduction of ESA. I think there is mileage in checking what decision was actually made on his incapacity credits and income support claims. The provision of medical certificates would only enable him to be treated as incapable of work. In the absence of a certificate, there should be a determination as to whether he is actually incapable of work under the PCA, or by virtue of reg 10, 27 or whatever. A similar question can arise on ESA. We had a client who is anopthalmic - her GP would not isse a medical certificate because she was still working, just for less hours. She could not be paid ESA pending the medical assessment but that did not mean her claim ended. She passed the medical (no sight) and all ESA arrears were paid. The problem with pursuing the technicalities is that the client is without money for however long it takes to sort out, which is almost invariably longer than the person can last without money.

Brian

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Wed 30-Sep-09 01:35 PM

Many thanks for comprehensive reply sovietleader (strange old name - Lenin or his bezzie mate or later?)

  

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sovietleader
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Wirral Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
07th Sep 2009

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Fri 02-Oct-09 11:47 AM

No, nothing as political as that. Like my own home e-mail, it is all to do with greyhounds - helps me to remember the obscure passwords. I actually use it on ebay and, in a rush to do my own account here, fell back on this old favourite (rather than the more obvious and sensible use of my actual name, on reflection)

Thanks

Brian

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Backdated IB/IS or ESA
Fri 02-Oct-09 01:37 PM

Perhaps just a bit bolshie when dealing with DWP eh

  

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