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Ste_Higham
                              

Welfare Clerk, Stephensons Solicitors LLP, Leigh
Member since
10th Jan 2008

CA overpayment appeal
Thu 04-Jun-09 10:45 AM

I'm a bit stumped with this one! Can anyone help, please?

I've got a client who was overpaid ICA back in 2001-2002 because the partner had claimed a dependent adult increase in their Sickness Benefit claim. The DWP decided that both ICA and SB had been overpaid, SB on the basis that ICA was in payment so the increase shouldn't have applied, and CA on the basis that there was no entitlement because of that increase. As far as I can tell, the ICA decision was never appealed, but the SB decision was, resulting in a Tribunal deciding that the overpayment had arisen from official error.

The ICA overpayment is now being recovered. Does the fact that the SB overpayment was deemed to be an official error not mean that the ICA overpayment should not stand? Or should this have been appealed at the time?

  

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RE: CA overpayment appeal, Tony Bowman, 04th Jun 2009, #1
RE: CA overpayment appeal, Ste_Higham, 04th Jun 2009, #2

Tony Bowman
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
25th Nov 2004

RE: CA overpayment appeal
Thu 04-Jun-09 12:23 PM

Initial thoughts only I'm afraid - great question though!!

You refer to SB, which suggests that the overpayment was for a period prior to 1995 and the decisions were issued 2001-2002. Do you mean incapacity benefit?

Both decisions would have revised the previous awarding decisions to effect the change. Whether or not either overpayment was recoverable seems to me to be a red-herring.

One of those decisions would have been made before the other one. Therefore, the second decision revising either benefit must have been technically incorrect as it was based on incorrect facts. I.e. if the first benefit decision to be revised was SB to remove the dependant increase, then it must have been (technically) wrong to superseed the ICA decision on the basis that the SB award contained the increase. It's probably likely that both departments would communicated with each other about this, so I'm wondering if an official error review of the second superseeding decision might now be worth a shot?

A further ground for official error review may go back to the start of the award of the second benefit. The OB rules would have applied so the cause of the overpayment in either case must have been an error - so long as the claimant notifed receipt of the first benefit on the claim for the second.

In the alternative to a review, and at the very least (the cost of pursing a new review and an appeal notwithstanding), I would have thought there would be reasonable grounds to argue for non-recovery since the practical effect is that the DWP get to have thier cake and eat it (gluttons!).

From your post, it is not clear when the events occurred, so I might also look to see if the pre SSA1998 review procedures might still apply, or if reference can be made to them in some way. The review procedures in particular were more generous back then.

Hope this helps,

  

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Ste_Higham
                              

Welfare Clerk, Stephensons Solicitors LLP, Leigh
Member since
10th Jan 2008

RE: CA overpayment appeal
Thu 04-Jun-09 12:43 PM

Thanks so much for that. I was ambiguous - the decisions and appeal on SB were in 2001/2 but the overpayment period was back in the early 90's so the old rules would be relevant I assume. I'll do a bit more digging.

  

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