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mike shermer
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Kings Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council, Kings l
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT
Tue 25-Jul-06 12:35 PM



We may well be inheriting a possible client from another agency - very elderly who, in May 2003 sold her property for a large sum of money. Over the next two to three months she distributed the proceeds amongst her relatives, divesting herself of most of the money. During this time she did not apply for MIG as it was at that time.
For those who may be a tad suspicious, there was no coercion, and the lady is in full control of her faculties.

She subsequently applied for Pension credit together with HB/CTB and was awarded these. Eventually, the PS found out about the original capital, cancelled benefit and notified HB/CTB who did the same. At present there are quite large alleged overpayments.

The case has been to tribunal and she lost - it is now going to Commissioners which is where we may come in.

Now then - I'm sure I have seen a Comm decision that basically says you cannot deprive yourself of capital in order to gain a benefit, if that benefit did not exist at the time of the alleged intentional deprivation - as was the case in this instance. any pointers please....

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT, nevip, 25th Jul 2006, #1
RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT, mike shermer, 25th Jul 2006, #2
      RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT, mike shermer, 25th Jul 2006, #3
           RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT, ken, 26th Jul 2006, #4
                RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT, Martin_Williams, 27th Jul 2006, #5

nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT
Tue 25-Jul-06 01:11 PM

Mike

The decision is R(IS)14/93 relating to IS replacing Supp' Benn'.

Regards
Paul

  

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mike shermer
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Kings Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council, Kings l
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT
Tue 25-Jul-06 06:06 PM



suitably impressed as usual - now I don't suppose anyone can point me in the direction of a link to the decision - I've tried all the usual avenues, here and elsewhere, but alas without joy ..........

  

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mike shermer
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Kings Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council, Kings l
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT
Tue 25-Jul-06 06:26 PM



......Forget my last - now found said Comm Dec

  

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ken
                              

rightsnet, lasa
Member since
28th Jul 2005

RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT
Wed 26-Jul-06 08:51 AM

To save other people looking here's a link to R(IS) 14/93 -

http://www.osscsc.gov.uk/aspx/view.aspx?id=516

  

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Martin_Williams
                              

Appeals Representative, London Advice Services Alliance- london
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL & PENSION CREDIT
Thu 27-Jul-06 10:46 AM

I had a similar case and the Pension Service eventually folded and revised the stop decision on the basis of official error.

I remember that the DMG Pension Credit guidance also references the case (which may be an easier way to persuade them to sort it out):

Para 84811 is as follows:

“DMs have to show people had a knowledge of
1. the SPC scheme and
2. the affect of capital on SPC
if those people deprived themselves of capital before 6.10.03”

The paragraph is footnoted with R(IS)14/93.

  

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