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BrianSmith
                              

Welfare rights officer, northumberland nhs care trust
Member since
06th Oct 2004

Help with Polish national please
Fri 24-Apr-09 02:34 PM

I've very little experience (well, non actually) of benefits for people from abroad, so any help would be appreciated. Scenario is thus. 28 year old Polish national came to UK Aug 07, has had 3 periods of employment, the first 2 were possibly not registered under the WRS, did not total 12 months, and were separated from the 3rd by over 30 days, so not linked. Only the 3rd period was definitely registered and he was dismissed after 11 months (inc holiday entitlement) when he became mentally ill. I don't think he has R2R therefore on the basis of his work. He only ever worked in Poland for about 4 months. He is currently sectioned to a psychiatric hospital. We have applied for ESA but I don't expect this to succeed. When he is discharged the plan is for him to live with his mother in a 2 bedroomed flat, her tenancy, she will claim any HB/CTB. She has been here and worked for several years and has RTR.

Assuming he is still ill when he leaves hospital, would he have R2R as an extended family member who is a member of his mother's household and is seriously ill or disabled requiring the personal care of an EEA national (CPAG Migration Handbook p100)? Would this then enable him to claim IS? If he rented somewhere of his own to live, would he still have R2R as dependent on his mother's care and be able to claim HB/CTB?

Could he claim DLA on discharge from hospital as he would be ordinarily resident and satisfy the residence and presence test?

Many thanks in advance.

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Help with Polish national please, BrianSmith, 24th Apr 2009, #1
RE: Help with Polish national please, dmbc, 27th Apr 2009, #2
RE: Help with Polish national please, ariadne2, 27th Apr 2009, #3
RE: Help with Polish national please, BrianSmith, 28th Apr 2009, #4

BrianSmith
                              

Welfare rights officer, northumberland nhs care trust
Member since
06th Oct 2004

RE: Help with Polish national please
Fri 24-Apr-09 03:06 PM

Sorry, meant ESA not IS in the penultimate para. Can't get used to this new fangled ESA thing.

  

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dmbc
                              

welfare benefits adviser, The Benefit Shop Dudley mbc, Dudley West Midlands
Member since
13th Oct 2005

RE: Help with Polish national please
Mon 27-Apr-09 08:45 AM

Hi Brian

Re: DLA, I have claimed for a polish national without R2R and claim was allowed as met residence and presence tests. His sister (also no R2R) was also able to claim CA.

Not sure about the family member route as never had to use this before as we dont deal with these cases very often. Sure someone more experienced will be along soon

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: Help with Polish national please
Mon 27-Apr-09 08:53 PM

R2R doesn't apply to DLA and carers - it's generally only the means-tested benefits it applies to.

  

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BrianSmith
                              

Welfare rights officer, northumberland nhs care trust
Member since
06th Oct 2004

RE: Help with Polish national please
Tue 28-Apr-09 07:44 AM

Thanks both. Any views on whether he will have R2R as needing care from a family member living in the same household and who is an EEA national who has R2R? And will he then be able to claim irESA?

  

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