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iut044
                              

Advisor, South West Lancashire Independent Community Advice
Member since
15th May 2007

Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 01:00 PM

Tue 24-Nov-09 01:00 PM by iut044

Hi

I have a client who has been refused Disability Living Allowance. If he used stairs he would need help using them. However. he lives in a caravan. Can his problem with stairs be taken into account?

Thanks

  

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RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, John Birks, 24th Nov 2009, #1
RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, clairehodgson, 24th Nov 2009, #2
RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, iut044, 24th Nov 2009, #4
RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, iut044, 24th Nov 2009, #3
      RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, Seal, 24th Nov 2009, #5
           RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, ariadne2, 24th Nov 2009, #6
                RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, iut044, 24th Nov 2009, #7
                     RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, nevip, 24th Nov 2009, #8
                          RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?, clairehodgson, 24th Nov 2009, #9

John Birks
                              

Welfare Rights Officer, Stockport Advice
Member since
02nd Jun 2004

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 01:17 PM

When does he use the stairs?

  

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clairehodgson
                              

solicitor, CMH Solicitors, Durham
Member since
09th Apr 2009

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 01:30 PM

are there not steps to get into and out of the caravan? most that i've seen require them...

  

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iut044
                              

Advisor, South West Lancashire Independent Community Advice
Member since
15th May 2007

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 02:36 PM

Good point Claire, I will have to ask the client about that.

  

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iut044
                              

Advisor, South West Lancashire Independent Community Advice
Member since
15th May 2007

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 02:36 PM

Sorry, I have not phrased the question very well. Is the need for help with stairs a theoretical test or does it matter what type of accomodation that the person lives in?

  

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Seal
                              

Benefit advice for Age Concern Torbay, Age Concern Torbay Paignton Devon
Member since
07th Feb 2008

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 02:47 PM

The claim form does specifically ask what type of accommodation they live in, where the bathroom and bedroom is. I have always assumed that was to build an actual picture of how the client struggled or not within their own home i.e living conditions specific to them. On that basis I would say it is not a theoretical test.
The suggestion of access to the caravan via steps may not help, if they are considering difficulty using stairs as part of the need for care because they look at care within the home, rather than the need for access to it.

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 03:11 PM

It is settled law that walking is a "bodily function" and I don't see why using stairs is not an extension of that function. The need for assistance with any form of mobilisation can be taken into account in arriving at their care needs. Your client might visit family or friends, hospitals, and GP surgeries, etc, where help with stairs would be needed and may be artificially restricting his activities to avoid them.

On the other hand, it does make sense for people who can't do stairs to live somewhere where that isn't a problem, But don't neglect those steps outside the front door, as he is never required to be a prisoner in his own home.

  

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iut044
                              

Advisor, South West Lancashire Independent Community Advice
Member since
15th May 2007

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 03:16 PM

aridane, so would I need I need to esablish that the client would use stairs a lot if the help was availaible for it to be much use in securing an award of Disability Living Allowance?

  

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nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 03:23 PM

Help is help that is reasonably required. So if a person cannot lead a normal life (depending on the circumstances of the case) because they cannot use stairs then any help needed to use stairs can be aggregated with any other help reasonably required in connection with a bodily function. It is a question of fact essentially

  

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clairehodgson
                              

solicitor, CMH Solicitors, Durham
Member since
09th Apr 2009

RE: Can help with stairs for DLA be taken into account for somebody who lives in a caravan?
Tue 24-Nov-09 05:08 PM

and, as ariadne says, a normal life includes being able to get in and out of one's home...

  

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