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Paradoxides
                              

Welfare Rights Officer, George Thomas Hospice Care, Nr. Cardiff, Glamorgan
Member since
15th Nov 2006

Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?.
Fri 16-May-08 03:41 PM

Is there any form of debt which can be offset from the estate of a deceased person in order to prevent the deduction of the "value of the estate" from the amount of any potential Funeral Payment award?. It seems, from what I have read in Rowland (commentary to s.78, S.S. Administration Act '92), and Mesher (commentary to S.F.M&F.E. (General) Regs 2005), that Funeral Payments are treated as Funeral Expenses, and so have priority in terms of being able to be deducted from the estate before any other debts. Is there any argument, or any possibility, of trying to circumvent this approach?.

  

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RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?., claire hodgson, 16th May 2008, #1
RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?., nevip, 16th May 2008, #2
RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?., ariadne2, 17th May 2008, #3
RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?., Paradoxides, 19th May 2008, #4

claire hodgson
                              

Solicitor, Askews Solicitors, Thornaby, Stockton on Tees
Member since
17th May 2005

RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?.
Fri 16-May-08 03:51 PM

you'd need a probate person, but my recollection (which isn't worth a huge amount) is not.... the funeral payments are a charge on the estate. you need to be reading wills & probate!

  

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nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?.
Fri 16-May-08 03:51 PM

I'm afraid not. You’ll find the answer here

http://www.communitylegaladvice.org.uk/en/legalhelp/leaflet10_13.jsp

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?.
Sat 17-May-08 08:42 PM

All debts of the estate are deductible in valuing it: however the funeral expenses take priority over all others. Thus, if there is only £1200 in the estate, and £31,000 of debts, and the funeral costs £1200, all the other creditors can whistle.
So, if the DWP pays some or all of the funeral expenses effectively as an agent on behalf of the estate, it has the right to recoup that payment by a sort of subrogation. Exactly the same would apply in the normal administration of an estate where no funds are available until probate is granted, so one of the family members pays for the funeral: they would be entitled to be repaid in priority to all other creditors. That is so even if they did not benefit under the will or intestacy.

  

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Paradoxides
                              

Welfare Rights Officer, George Thomas Hospice Care, Nr. Cardiff, Glamorgan
Member since
15th Nov 2006

RE: Funeral Payments:- Offsetting Debts from Estate?.
Mon 19-May-08 12:58 PM

Thank-you all for your clear answers. I will act on this information, regards,


John.

  

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