"Benefit informers could be given share of cash saved

Proposals to encourage people to inform on benefit cheats are being examined by Labour's manifesto team" according to the Grauniad.

So...

When I tell HMRC that I will be a self-employed 'Benefit Informer' I shall be able to get WTC.

My expenses, largely spent on beer while I sit in pubs researching suspicious characters, will be offset against any tax liability.

My next step will be to create 'Snoopway', my multi-level pyramid-style operation which I am prepared to allow rightsnet members to join - ON THE GROUND FLOOR!

Simply send me £5 and the names and addresses of *FOUR* benefits fraudsters - You will keep 50% of any reward.

I will contact those people and suggest that, as they've been caught, they should supply me with £5 and the details of *FOUR* other benefits fraudsters, in return they will keep 50% and *YOU* will get 20% of each reward.

etc etc.

Cash only, no cheques - we do not issue receipts.

Surely this could be permitted work, and thus you could also lodge an ESA claim on the grounds of mental distress, caused by the rigorous nature of the Snoopway outfit.....

Thu 11-Feb-10 12:15 PM by nevip

The Government today has issued a correction to its announced plan to pay a reward to those who shop benefit cheats. A minister said “may I issue a full and frank apology for any misunderstanding that the announcement caused. It was my secretary’s fault. I had drawn up a brief announcing plans to encourage people to report any employer that pays below the minimum wage. The plan also included an amnesty for those employees in this situation, living on a pittance and topping that up with benefits. We in the Labour party are for the working man and we will not sit idly by while unscrupulous employers flout the law by exploiting their workers. This has got to stop and we will see that it does”.

He continued “when I went to bed last night I left strict instructions with my secretary to type it up in the morning ready for announcement by one of my juniors. Unfortunately for reasons only known to her she put an unfortunate slant on my proposals and my brief was misinterpreted as an assault on benefit cheats. May I also take this opportunity to scotch those scurrilous rumours that there is anything between me and my secretary and I will be taking some time off to spend more time with my wife who is, may I say, utterly fragrant”

Can you tell me if 'snoopway' will work with supergrass 2009, or DOB your neighbour Windows 2007? Does it have a facility to help identify public sector expense fraud or official error, or is it suggested we only penalise the long haired unwashed workshy layabouts?

I look forward to sending you my first £5 and an unconscious submission of the details of *FOUR* low life cheating types, of which there a multiples to choose from wherever you look, but i agree, i think any pub is a good start !

Does snoopway have have external links to Mercedes dealerships for the most prolific respondees to this fantastic socially acceptable money making scheme?

as a sideline you could make a dodgy DLA claim, then report yourself, then recieve a proportion of the benefits that you would have fraudulently claimed had you not reported yourself. I wonder if they will limit the number of times you can do this, otherwise the sky is the limit!

Tut, tut - That's not acceptable, Snoopway is an ethical organisation.

What you would have to do is use 'Snoopway - Pairing Services' where we would put you in contact with another member who would claim DLA so that you could shop her / him while he / she shops you.

Indeed, for a small extra fee, we would run the administrative processes for you both using our advanced technology to 'push' the information into the DWP systems for maximum speed.

This service 'Gov-Shove' can also be used with with supergrass 2009 and DOB your neighbour Windows 2007 as Casework Team enquired but, due to no demand, there is no facility to help identify public sector expense fraud or official error.

Snoopway and Gov-Shove are proud sponsors of this years ' Benefts saving and cost-cutting conference' at the Foie Gras Resort and Casino, Pacific Beach, Tahiti.

How about this:

A) Crafty Claimant is convicted of fraudulent IS claim worth £10,000. Nosey Neighbour who reported her gets 10% - a handy £1,000.

Nosey Neighbour is on HB/CTB and fails to declare said income/capital (or would it be earnings - as it was something done in expectation of payment?). Nosey Neighbour is then prosecuted/made to pay an admin penalty for not declaring receipt of said £1,000 to his LA. Nosey Neighbour has been shopped by Angry Ex who then also gets 10%: £100.

B) Crafty Claimant eventually has an appeal heard before a Tribunal. Tribunal decides that correct amount of overpayment is £5,000.

Does DWP then ask Nosey Neighbour to refund £500 and Angry Ex £50? Does the LA then have to revise the OP decision affecting Nosey Neighbour?

C) Nosey Neighbour having been taken to task for not declaring £1,000 then appeals his overpayment on the basis that the correct payout was £500 and not £1,000. And on and on and on....

Or how about this:

Crafty Claimant is convicted of a benefit fraud worth £10,000. Crafty has twenty Nosey Neighbours who hate her and each Nosey Neighbour phones the DWP to report Crafty. Each Nosey Neighbour thus qualifies for 10%, which means the DWP have to pay out £20,000 - double whatever Crafty was overpaid. And if the whole estate of 5,000 Nosey Neighbours phones in to report Crafty, does DWP end up paying out £5 million?

And this:

Crafty appeals her conviction and succeeds. Do all the Nosey Neighbours then have to repay the money to DWP? If they don't, will DWP take action in the County Court for recovery?

Accessory before the fact?
Incitement?

I'm delighted to see such inspiring prospects for all the redundant welfare rights officers! We will be richer than we ever dared dream of as LA employees!

I can only agree , prior to this I have only had a legitimate excuse to hang around in pubs with dodgy looking characters if I was attending a NAWRA meeting!

Pete

(And many thanks to all those who made me so welcome at NAWRA Cardiff last week)

Glad you enjoyed Cardiff and thanks for the help in the pub filling in my claim form, err , ah, oops .....

Glad to help, have you rung the DWP about my claim?

if you did ring the DWP was that an answerphone you reached?

'If you happened to call the Department for Work and Pensions this week, only to be told about high call volume and then cut off, there's a chance that wasn't an answerphone. Due to strike action, the ... civil servants who continued working ... say that managers told them to pretend to be machines, and read out this message: 'Due to the high volume of inquiries we are currently experiencing we are unable to take your call. Please call back later.''

Thu 11-Mar-10 01:42 PM by Gareth Morgan

You may actually have reached a GovShove contractor Shawn.

Thanks to our use of standard DWP contract techniques and targets we have a responsibility to answer phones within 5 rings but no requirement to do anything thereafter.
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