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pipkin
                              

Debt Adviser, Southway Housing, Manchester
Member since
10th Mar 2008

Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 11:01 AM

Hi All.

Hopefully a nice easy one for you guys.. checked CPAG but cant find anything which covers this..

I know that if a tenant is on high rate DLA, then no non dep deduction is made.. easy but what happens in this case..?

CLi - Mrs T tenancy in her name only, although now married. She receives DLA care high rate and has a motability car for her eligibility to DLA mobility.

However husb works p/t... and they do not get full HB..

If husb was a non dep then his income would be ignored due to her being a tenant on DLA high care, is this not the case here cos they are married...????

Seems slightly unfair if so..



  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, bensup, 09th Oct 2009, #1
RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, Kevin D, 09th Oct 2009, #2
RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, pipkin, 09th Oct 2009, #3
      RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, bensup, 09th Oct 2009, #4
           RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, pipkin, 09th Oct 2009, #5
                RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, bensup, 09th Oct 2009, #6
                RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, Kevin D, 09th Oct 2009, #7
                     RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB, pipkin, 09th Oct 2009, #8

bensup
                              

Benefits Supervisor, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
24th May 2004

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 11:06 AM

Have a look at pages 117 - 118 of the disability rights handbook.

Also, doesn't have to be highest rate care for no non-dep deduction to apply - can be any rate of the care comp.

Nicky

  

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Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 11:52 AM

Fri 09-Oct-09 11:52 AM by Kevin D

I'm a bit unclear as to what is happening here.

If the clmt and her husband are a couple (i.e. members of the same household), their income is aggregated and treated as if it is that of the claimant - s.136(1) SSCBA 1992 & HBR 25.

The fact the claimant is entitled to DLA(C) doesn't provide a basis on which to disregard all of the income of a partner.

  

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pipkin
                              

Debt Adviser, Southway Housing, Manchester
Member since
10th Mar 2008

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 11:54 AM

Hi Kevin, that is right it is tenant (claimant) and her husband.. She is on high rate care DLA...

I just thought, if he was a non dep instead, his income would be disregarded, seems strange that it is taken into account cos he is her partner...

  

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bensup
                              

Benefits Supervisor, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
24th May 2004

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 12:02 PM

I'm not sure why you find it strange that her Husband's income is taken into account?

Am i missing something?

  

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pipkin
                              

Debt Adviser, Southway Housing, Manchester
Member since
10th Mar 2008

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 12:18 PM

Fri 09-Oct-09 12:19 PM by pipkin

Not being a welf rights adviser - justs seems strange that if husband was non dep his income would be disregarded..

First time ive come across this so ... what can I say..

Something that is sooo obvious to you guys isnt always to people not in the know...

  

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bensup
                              

Benefits Supervisor, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
24th May 2004

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 12:25 PM

Fri 09-Oct-09 12:26 PM by bensup

"Not being a welf rights adviser - justs seems strange that if husband was non dep his income would be disregarded.."

You're right of course - but, the Husband can't be classed as a non dependent. If you've got access to the disability rights handbook i would recommend that you have a little read of the pages i specified above as i feel it would hopefully make things a bit clearer for you.

And......nothing is ever as obvious as it first seems!!

  

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Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 12:26 PM

On the other hand, if the husband was a non-dep, the "applicable amount" would decrease - the "single clmt" rate would apply instead of the "couple" rate and the Disability Premium would be at the single rate instead of the couple rate. Swings and roundabouts....

NB: There would be no Severe Disability Premium for the single claimant - the presence of the non-dep would scupper that.

  

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pipkin
                              

Debt Adviser, Southway Housing, Manchester
Member since
10th Mar 2008

RE: Tnt on DLA - not receiving full HB
Fri 09-Oct-09 12:44 PM

Dont have the disability handbook.. maybe something I should be looking at getting (again)...

Thanks for the replies guys, I undertsand now its explained especially with regard to the premiums..

x

  

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