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Semitone
                              

welfare rights officer, Redcar & Cleveland Welfare Rights
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

Rant
Thu 06-Aug-09 03:02 PM

Can it get any worse. needed the address for posting off child benefit form and googled. The first link shown was Child Benefit org uk. think at one time this site referred on to a premium rate number costing £1.50 per minute. Thought I'd take a quick scan and noticed there's an addition to the site
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Apply Online now - Click Here
To apply for Child Benefit online for new or additional Children, you can use the Submit and Send service. Applications processed within 7 working days
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Digital Select or whoever control the site invite you to complete a form which appears to exactly mirror questions on a CHB application form. They then check (check what!) the information and send it back to you for YOU to send on to Child Benefit. Then charge you £9.95 + vat for the privelege.

Applications processed within 7 days could easily give the impression to clients that DS have an unholy appliance with HMRC to process the claims quickly. Fat chance. More likely to refer to them sending your own info back to you.

What the bloody hell is going on when something like this is allowed.

I'm not saying anything else. I'd probably say something I'd get sued for.


  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Rant, Paul Treloar_GB, 06th Aug 2009, #1
RE: Rant, pete c, 07th Aug 2009, #2
      RE: Rant, Semitone, 11th Aug 2009, #3
           RE: Rant, pete c, 11th Aug 2009, #4
                RE: Rant, shawn, 01st Sep 2009, #5

Paul Treloar_GB
                              

Head of Helpline and Information, Gingerbread, London
Member since
01st Jun 2009

RE: Rant
Thu 06-Aug-09 04:01 PM

Hold onto your blood pressure, as I found this story in the Mirror last week and couldn't believe it when I checked whether he was still trading and found the new development you describe....

Official-sounding websites conned victims into paying for information that Government departments provide for free.

Shaun Freeman, a 25-year-old from Norfolk, was behind childbenefit.org.uk, housingbenefits.org.uk and ukpass- portoffice.org.uk.

They listed 0906 enquiry numbers costing £1.50 a minute which kept callers on hold for up to 28 minutes.

This week the premium-rate phoneline watchdog PhonepayPlus fined Freeman's firm Digital Select £50,000 for breaking rules on fairness, pricing information and call delays.


Mirror

  

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pete c
                              

Welfare Rights Officer, Adult Social Care, Cornwall County Council, Truro
Member since
30th Oct 2008

RE: Rant
Fri 07-Aug-09 04:24 PM

I love the idea of an unholy appliance - the demon fridge perhaps!

cheers

pete.

  

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Semitone
                              

welfare rights officer, Redcar & Cleveland Welfare Rights
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Rant
Tue 11-Aug-09 08:59 AM

Pete - I looked at your response for ages wondering what you meant then realised my mistake. Kicked myself but thanks, it brought down the blood pressure.

Pauls response explains why theres no premium rate number anymore but charging a tenner for this imo is just as bad. If Digital Systems can weather a 50k fine how many dialled in on the premium number.

Maybe I'll get my laptop out and join in. Offer advice to bankers.

  

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pete c
                              

Welfare Rights Officer, Adult Social Care, Cornwall County Council, Truro
Member since
30th Oct 2008

RE: Rant
Tue 11-Aug-09 04:25 PM

I 'm glad I helped your blood pressure!


On a more serious note; we have circulated the news story to our Finance officers (who deal with lots of Benefit enquiries and claims) so they can advise claimants of the possible pitfalls of this unsavoury scheme and hopefully prevent anyone wasting money on it under the impression they are getting some sort of fast track claim. Thanks for raising the issue.

pete.

  

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shawn
                              

editorial director, rightsnet
Member since
28th Jul 2005

RE: Rant
Tue 01-Sep-09 12:36 PM

story in the observer yesterady ....

Misleading benefit advice site that charges £11 just to check a form

Unsuspecting parents are in danger of being ripped off by an £11 charge for online child benefit applications and up to 5p-per-minute telephone calls for advice that is available free elsewhere.

Premium-rate telephone number operator Digital Select Ltd - recently fined £50,000 by regulator PhonepayPlus after an investigation into its expensive lines - offers rudimentary advice on its official-looking Child Benefit Information website. Thanks to its paid-for sponsored web link, it appears above HM Revenue & Customs as the top-ranking website on a Google search for child benefit and, with its ".org" address, looks official.

However, pages are peppered with prompts to apply online via a "submit and send" service - a simple checking and completion stage for which it charges £11.44. It then says it will return the form to you for printing and to send to the benefit office yourself.

The homepage also offers an 0844 number, charging users up to 5p a minute - of which it takes a share of the revenue - that goes straight through to the government's child benefit helpline. The official government number is 0845 302 1444 which charges between 0.5p and 2.5p per minute, or parents can call on the landline 0161 210 3086. To add to the confusion, the Child Benefit Information website has, for 12 months, been mistakenly included on a London borough of Camden advice leaflet handed out to thousands of parents registering their child's birth.

Camden's leaflet tells parents they can "fill in a child benefit claim form accessed the child benefit website child-benefit.org.uk ... print it out ... to send to the child benefit office."

In light of Cash's disclosure, a council spokesman says Digital Select's website inclusion was a "mistake" and taken down in error by a staff member who hadn't checked its authenticity. "The local authority will no longer insert the leaflet as part of its literature," she says.

Digital Select refused to comment to Cash about its website or call charges. But it did make a statement to the BBC earlier this year, after complaints from Watchdog viewers triggered the earlier investigation - and subsequent fine - by regulator PhonepayPlus into the £1.50-a-minute number that Digital Select was operating at that time.

"Digital Select Ltd works with Information Providers and Phonepay Plus (the regulator) to ensure all services are fully compliant with the regulator's Code of Practice, which includes checking that all content, promotional material and pricing information is clear and up-to-date," the company told the BBC.

"Consumers are informed of all costs involved before calling and also immediately upon connection to any premium rate number. If they do not wish to pay the stated amount, they simply end the call."

An HMRC spokeswoman said it would "advise customers to visit our webpages instead of phoning a company like this. The information is free and easy to understand".

  

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