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Dolge
                              

Senior Adviser, Wirral Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
07th Sep 2009

mother + baby fostering placements
Thu 17-Sep-09 04:19 PM

Our CYPD is, for whatever reasons, placing a number of families, usually mother and baby(ies), in foster placements. The baby is a formal S.23(2)(a) Children Act placement and a fostering allowance is paid in the usual way; the baby therefore cannot be claimed for under CHB and CTC rules. The mother may be placed in the same way, if under 18, but if 18+ cannot be - CYPD nonetheless pay the eqivalent of a fostering allowance in respect of mother as well. These arrangements are always intended to be temporary although this can mean a year or more.

The question that arises is whether the mother is able to claim IS as a single parent in these circumstances.

We think she can. Reg.15 IS Regs says that if no-one is receiving CHB in respect of a child the person treated as responsible is the person with whom the child normally lives. The exclueion for 'looked after' children an Reg.16(5)(c) only applies to a child who is 'not living with' the claimant. therefore the mother is both 'responsible for' (Reg.15) and a member of the same household as (Reg.16) the baby, and is a lone parent under Sch.1A.

I'm fairly confident about the argument but I was wondering if anyone else has any practical experience of claiming in these circumstances - are there problems with the claims line for instance?

Richard Atkinson

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: mother + baby fostering placements, Derbyshire, 18th Sep 2009, #1
RE: mother + baby fostering placements, Dolge, 18th Sep 2009, #2
      RE: mother + baby fostering placements, suelees, 23rd Sep 2009, #3

Derbyshire
                              

Welfare Rights Officer, Derbyshire County Council Welfare Rights Service
Member since
25th May 2005

RE: mother + baby fostering placements
Fri 18-Sep-09 11:21 AM

I have advised in a few similar cases. I have advised that the mother can claim child benefit and IS but not CTC. as far as I know claims were OK although I haven't actually helped the people make the claims - no one has come back to me saying not successful!

I think CB is OK because:
- Para 1 of Schedule 9 to SSCBA says not entitled if child is in care of local authority; but
- reg 16(1) of CB regs says above does not apply if child lives with clt, although not if clt is the person with whom the child is placed 16(3) - in such cases I have assumed they mean the foster carer

Am i missing something?

IS entitlement as you say or with CB if in payment.

Practically - I don't know whether the claims line can cope - I would be inclined to make a paper claim

  

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Dolge
                              

Senior Adviser, Wirral Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
07th Sep 2009

RE: mother + baby fostering placements
Fri 18-Sep-09 01:01 PM

Nope, I was missing something, not you. I hadn't got round to checking the CHB Regs in this situation and I agree with your analysis .

Richard Atkinson

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: mother + baby fostering placements
Wed 23-Sep-09 11:08 AM

Nice one - just what I'm looking for...

  

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