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shawn
                              

editorial director, rightsnet
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28th Jul 2005

'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Thu 12-Jun-08 10:56 AM

not benefits but may be of interest ...

... McCarthy v Secretary of State for the Home Department (2008) EWCA Civ 641 (11 June 2008)

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2008/641.html

  

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RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , claire hodgson, 13th Jun 2008, #1
RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , Dan_manville, 17th Sep 2009, #2
      RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , clairehodgson, 17th Sep 2009, #3
           RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , Dan_manville, 18th Sep 2009, #4
                RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , clairehodgson, 20th Sep 2009, #5
                     RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , clairehodgson, 20th Sep 2009, #6
                          RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , clairehodgson, 25th Sep 2009, #7
                               RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment , Dan_manville, 29th Sep 2009, #8

claire hodgson
                              

Solicitor, Askews Solicitors, Thornaby, Stockton on Tees
Member since
17th May 2005

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Fri 13-Jun-08 06:56 AM

but also interesting as Mrs McCarthy is a UK citizen AND an Irish Citizen, and was trying to get EEA rights so as to enable her husband, a jamaican national, the right to live int he UK with her. the CofA agreed with the Asylum appeal tribunal that the EEA rights do not assist her in her situation - they are only for people who IN FACT move to another member state, not for those who always lived in the relevant member state by virtue of being a citizen of it.

  

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Dan_manville
                              

Caseworker, Birmingham Tribunal Unit
Member since
08th Jun 2004

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Thu 17-Sep-09 03:36 PM

Bump

A news story would tell me that McCarthy has been referred to ECJ but I can't seem to find the order for reference either on Bailii or google

Any ideas?

  

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clairehodgson
                              

solicitor, CMH Solicitors, Durham
Member since
09th Apr 2009

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Thu 17-Sep-09 07:29 PM

not referred - the CA decided not to

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2008/641.html&query=title+%28+mccarthy+%29&method=boolean

  

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Dan_manville
                              

Caseworker, Birmingham Tribunal Unit
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08th Jun 2004

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Fri 18-Sep-09 03:20 PM

So it's not been appealed to H'o'L, as that was who had made the referral according to the Dias commentary

  

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clairehodgson
                              

solicitor, CMH Solicitors, Durham
Member since
09th Apr 2009

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Sun 20-Sep-09 05:29 PM

mentioned here:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200809/minutes/090218/ldordpap.htm

and the only other mention i can immediately find is here:

http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199238668/resources/updates/ch06

  

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clairehodgson
                              

solicitor, CMH Solicitors, Durham
Member since
09th Apr 2009

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Sun 20-Sep-09 05:37 PM

ah, i've found this:

http://www.lawreports.co.uk/HouseofLords/decisionresults08.html

where leave to appeal to the lords was given on 13/11/08

but can't find anything else .. yet

  

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clairehodgson
                              

solicitor, CMH Solicitors, Durham
Member since
09th Apr 2009

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Fri 25-Sep-09 09:34 PM

whilst not being able to find it in the HoL site or anywhere (you'd think there'd be a list of referrals somewhere) i re-read Dias ( http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2009/807.html) and quote:

" In McCarthy v Secretary of State for the Home Department <2008> EWCA Civ 641, this court held, on different facts, that the proper meaning of article 16 was as recital 17 to Directive 2004/38 suggests, and that accordingly in order to give rise to the permanent right of residence the five years' legal residence relied upon have to be years of residence "in compliance with the conditions laid down in this Directive". That led this court to hold that a British citizen, with an unqualified right of abode in this country, could not rely on five years' residence here in that capacity to create a permanent right of residence for her non-British husband. On further appeal to the House of Lords, however, that court has referred questions on the proper meaning of article 16 to the European Court of Justice. The questions referred by the House are:

"(1) Is a person of dual Irish and UK nationality who has resided in the UK for her entire life a 'beneficiary' within the meaning of article 3 of Directive 2004/38….?

(2) Has such a person 'resided legally' within the host Member State for the purpose of article 16 of the Directive in circumstances where she was unable to satisfy the requirement of article 7 of Directive 2004/38 ? "

so, yes it is referred.

  

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Dan_manville
                              

Caseworker, Birmingham Tribunal Unit
Member since
08th Jun 2004

RE: 'qualified person' under EEA regs .. new Court of Appeal judgment
Tue 29-Sep-09 07:22 PM

I've not had time to do so much searching so... Thank you.

Still doesn't come up with the order for reference but it's enough for me...

  

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