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joanie
                              

case worker, camden community law centre
Member since
21st Jan 2004

down sizing home
Tue 03-Jul-07 04:44 PM

my client and her son lives in a large home which is under shared ownership between herself, her mother and her brother. The mother is now in residential care and the brother and sister want to sell the house and each buy a smaller home each.

However, my client is on IS and HB and expects a gap between selling one property and buying another, I've advised on the capital rules and benefit but does anyone have any experience of holding the money from the sale of one property with the claer intention purchasing another??

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: down sizing home, nevip, 03rd Jul 2007, #1
RE: down sizing home, joanie, 03rd Jul 2007, #2
RE: down sizing home, Kevin D, 03rd Jul 2007, #3
      RE: down sizing home, claire hodgson, 04th Jul 2007, #4
           RE: down sizing home, stainsby, 10th Jul 2007, #5

nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: down sizing home
Tue 03-Jul-07 04:52 PM

Can you be more specific regarding "holding the money from the sale of one property with the clear intention purchasing another??"


  

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joanie
                              

case worker, camden community law centre
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: down sizing home
Tue 03-Jul-07 05:14 PM

The client will not have been able to buy a home for herself until the sale of the joint home. In the time between selling one home and acquring another the client would like to put the profit into an account of some sort and use it only to buy a home. She would also like to rent somewere while she finds a new place.


The problems comes with how the capital from the sale will be viewed by the benefit agencies. I've looked into trust funds but it seems unlikely she would fall into that categories if she had access to the money. I wondered if there is any way that the capital from a home sale can be ring-marked for a given propose and not seen as income.

  

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Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: down sizing home
Tue 03-Jul-07 07:13 PM

Assuming your client remains properly entitled to IS, wouldn't para 3 of Sch 10 (Income Support Regs) cover it?

para 10: Any sum directly attributable to the proceeds of sale of any premises formerly occupied by the claimant as his home which is to be used for the purchase of other premises intended for such occupation within 26 weeks of the date of sale or such longer period as is reasonable in the circumstances to enable the claimant to complete the purchase.


If, for whatever reason, the clmt ceased to be entitled to IS and the LA made it's own assessment for the HB claim, exactly the same provision exists under para 3 of Schedule 6 (HB Regs).

So long as the (genuine) purpose is to use the proceeds of sale to purchase AND occupy other premises, no problem (subject to time limits).

  

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claire hodgson
                              

Solicitor, Askews Solicitors, Thornaby, Stockton on Tees
Member since
17th May 2005

RE: down sizing home
Wed 04-Jul-07 07:29 AM

and in any event, whilst the current home is on the market she can be looking for somewhere to buy and try and plan it so that completion on her purchase takes place on teh same day as completion on the sale......

  

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stainsby
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Gallions Housing Association, Thamesmead SE London
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: down sizing home
Tue 10-Jul-07 04:57 PM

Nearly 20 years ago when I was a student I sold my house and rented a flat in Cardiff. I deposited £9000 in an acount and delcared it when I made my HB claim. The Council initially refused my claim, but when I pointed out that the money was from the sale of a house and that I inteded to buy another , they soon changed thier mind.

I do agree though that its best to plan things so you complete sale and purchase on the same day if you can, but if you cant, then you ought to have a perod of grace that is as long as you reasonablyneed

  

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