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Carton of liquid open or closed
There’s a Schroedinger’s cat argument here of course; how do you know the cartons full without opening it?
... certainly in the case of say a milk carton it would be because forming machines are designed to only top seal once the product intended for the carton has been inserted. It’s infallable :)
Can’t say I agree with the idea a carton could be open. Most definitions of a carton refer to it as an item sealed top and bottom so the tribunal assuming it to be closed are probably on safe ground.
An interesting Heisenberg mobility argument also arises.
You can know where a claimant is or you can know how fast they’re moving but not both. Therefore it is impossible for an observer to know how far they can walk at any speed!
forming machines are designed to only top seal once the product intended for the carton has been inserted.
Aha! But what if the intended amount of product is not enough to fill it?
I thought we’d established it merely has to have liquid in it. It won’t necessarily be full.
Anyway, the carton could be see through like those horriffic things you can get eggs in.
.... the exact wording of the descriptor specifically says ‘a carton full of liquid’ not ‘such as a carton full of liquid’ like it does for the infamous carboard box in 4c).
.... the exact wording of the descriptor specifically says ‘a carton full of liquid’ not ‘such as a carton full of liquid’ like it does for the infamous carboard box in 4c).
My bad. Dang!!!
Hi,
I’ve tried to attach the tribunal’s written reasons but it just won’t work, so here is a snippet re: the carton being open or closed…
“there is nothing in the descriptor that says the container into which the drinks or drink are packaged does not have a lid and therefore the tribunal did not see any reason why Mr xxx could not lift a 1 litre carton of liquid because it could have a lid on.”
I’ll leave as that should anyone wish to comment…..
Thank you, Elaine