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New PIP regs and appeals

ib
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Please could you tell me if the new regs are retrospective ?  We have some appeals under way and I am not sure if we should be using the original or amended regs when writing our submissions.  I know I should know this and feel that the old regs apply to decisions before 16 March, but wonder if someone could clarify for me.  Many thanks!

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At least one person has already had a problem at appeal - http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/10956/#50962

My view is that they cannot be retrospective - they come into force on 16 March 2016. However, I’m not quite clear whether that means decisions made from that date or claims/renewals submitted since that date. I tend to think it should be the latter - when they’ve changed the ESA descriptors in the past I think the changes have only applied to ESA50s completed after the date so maybe it will be about when the PIP 2 is sent in.

I have emailed the DWP for their view but not heard back yet - I don’t know what others think?

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Daphne,  thank you for the prompt response and link to earlier thread, I’ll keep a lookout for updates.

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I agree with Daphne, but there is another problem if the DWP are appealing MH? (Is that still the case do you know Daphne?)

Anti-test case rules could complicate things. It seems they are not staying cases pending the MH appeal but I"m concerned about other SSA provisions.

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Daphne - 21 March 2017 02:02 PM

At least one person has already had a problem at appeal - http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/10956/#50962

My view is that they cannot be retrospective - they come into force on 16 March 2016. However, I’m not quite clear whether that means decisions made from that date or claims/renewals submitted since that date. I tend to think it should be the latter - when they’ve changed the ESA descriptors in the past I think the changes have only applied to ESA50s completed after the date so maybe it will be about when the PIP 2 is sent in.

I have emailed the DWP for their view but not heard back yet - I don’t know what others think?

Did you mean 2017? 2016 seems fairly retrospective to me :)