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Have I got this right?

stevejohnsontrainer
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In Live Service areas…

(1) Your earnings can deny or take you off UC, but your UC will return spontaneously (without a new claim) if your earnings later reduce within 6 months.

(2) There is no ‘surplus earnings’ rule within the intervening period.

In Digital Service areas…

(1)  You have to make a new claim if you have come off UC due to earnings but are now financially entitled again (i.e. no spontaneous combustion)

(2) There is a surplus earnings rule from April 2016

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Hi Steve - that’s my understanding. I think in the digital service there is supposed to be some kind of rapid reclaim in those circumstances (less than six months since last entitled) but I can’t be sure of that. The carry forward of self-employed losses also applied in the digital areas from April 2016.

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Thanks Daphne. Memo ADM 26/14 refers to the retention of the same AP within 6 months in DS cases, although that is hardly rapid reclaim so much as a more comfortable re-claim.

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I’ve not seen any information on this apart from paragraph 7.3 of the explanatory memo to SI 2014/2887

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2887/memorandum/contents

“Re-claim within 6 months of previous award [digital area] ...the claimant will be required to make a claim.  However, this will be a simplified claim process.  If that person still meets the basic entitlement conditions, they will only need to contact the Department and provide updated information.” 

I guess that some claimants in the digital trial area must already have gone through this re-claim process   - does anyone have any experience of what is actually required?

 

 

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stevejohnsontrainer - 11 February 2016 03:53 PM

In Digital Service areas…

(1)  You have to make a new claim if you have come off UC due to earnings but are now financially entitled again (i.e. no spontaneous combustion)

(2) There is a surplus earnings rule from April 2016

A thought occurs to me - what happens with people paid 4 weekly in the digital area. Getting paid twice in one assessment period may well end their entitlement to UC that month. Putting aside the excess earnings rule, will the system pick up that they should be entitled again soon?

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seand - 12 February 2016 09:27 AM

A thought occurs to me - what happens with people paid 4 weekly in the digital area. Getting paid twice in one assessment period may well end their entitlement to UC that month. Putting aside the excess earnings rule, will the system pick up that they should be entitled again soon?

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