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Extended payments/reductions and UC

chacha
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Seems as if I’m going mad.

I have been made to understand that once a claim for UC is made (Let’s forget the different post codes for now) an EP can’t be paid regardless of the UC claim date or treat as made date.

I looked at the UC transitional regs and it seems reg 8(5) will certainly end HB from the day before a UC award (Or treat as UC award), so if an EP can be awarded it will have to end on the date as prescribed by 8(5) http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/1230/regulation/8 even if it has to end before 4 weeks.

Have looked at HB regs (EP), no changes there, and some CTR schemes.

So if there is a gap between a qualifying benefit for an EP and the date UC is claimed what happens? I still think an EP is payable till the UC date, however long that might be.

So there should be no problems with the CTR extended reductions when UC is claimed (As long as it’s included in the scheme) it’s payable and as far as I understand it so is an EP (At least till the date UC is claimed)


Can I have my sanity back please? Thanks.

HB Anorak
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That’s an unlikely scenario in most of the country, so I am guessing you are in a full service/digital area?

Sequence of events:

1. Claimant on out-of-work DWP benefit plus HB
2. Claimant finds work and in ordinary course of events would qualify for HB extended payment
3. Wages not sufficient to live on; cannot claim WTC, must claim UC instead and does so during the four-week EP
4. HB must immediately end

That right?  It is sometimes suggested than an EP is not HB but something separate. I don’t really buy that so I think that the EP must, as a flavour of HB, end immediately in accordance with the transitional regs.

chacha
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HB Anorak - 22 July 2016 09:52 AM

It is sometimes suggested than an EP is not HB but something separate. I don’t really buy that so I think that the EP must, as a flavour of HB, end immediately in accordance with the transitional regs.

Thanks, those were my thoughts. EP is not HB, that’s what the LA have been told by a DWP liaison officer(UC)?

And yes (Lucky, lucky me) I’m in one of the pilot areas, at the moment….......groan….......headache!!