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"HB for client in 2 bedroom house needing 24/7 care"
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Robin
Adult services Social Worker Exeter, Adult & Community Services Devon CC Member since 28th Nov 2007
HB for client in 2 bedroom house needing 24/7 care Wed 28-Nov-07 11:57 AM
I am a social worker working with a 27 year old young man with complex physical disabilities who is dependent on a 24/7 care package (similarly to Tony Bowman's client). He is wanting to live independently but the local HB office have so far turned down agreeing to HB for the 2 bedroom property he wants to move to. Any advice/update out there? Thanks Robin Wooller Adult & Community Services St Edmunds Court Exeter EX4 1DU 01392 385 690
Senior Training Officer, Brighton and Hove City Council, Brighton Member since 26th Jan 2004
RE: HB for client in 2 bedroom house needing 24/7 care Thu 29-Nov-07 07:51 AM
I am assuming that the extra room is for a carer. I can only see this being allowed for if the carer is actually living there (i.e. there is one carer for whom the property in question is that person's normal home as well as your client's).
Failing that the only other alternative would be to apply for a Discretionary Housing Payment to make up the shortfall in benefit. I don't know all the facts but this situation is the sort of thing that DHP's are designed for.
Adult services Social Worker Exeter, Adult & Community Services Devon CC Member since 28th Nov 2007
RE: HB for client in 2 bedroom house needing 24/7 care Fri 30-Nov-07 01:13 PM
Thanks. Part of the problem is that he wants to move to Mid Devon where suitable council/social housing is in short supply so he would expect a very long wait; he has opted for a private rent at £600 mont)which will be above the HB payment for a 2 bed place I imagine. The pretenancy determination came up with £400 month. I have been warned that the DHP is only considered a short term facility (assessed on the person's income/outgoings) and HB may reconsidered i.e. is not secure. He has now involved a solicitor to plead his circumstances with HB...I await the outcome of that! Robin Wooller
Adult services Social Worker Exeter, Adult & Community Services Devon CC Member since 28th Nov 2007
RE: HB for client in 2 bedroom house needing 24/7 care Fri 30-Nov-07 01:29 PM
The rent is £600 month. The tenancy predetermination was £400 month (based on a single occupant). He is dependent on state benefits. The LA area has limited appropriate council/housing association housing stock (particularly for a single person)= a long wait. The local council agree that someone who has his level of needs is entitled to a 2 bed accomodation (presumably a council rent would be within a Fair Rent and not an issue for HB payment). His needs include an overnight carer available as he cannot transfer independently or weight bear. The property he is wanting to move to is a recnt build, is on ground floor level with wide enough wheelchair access through internal doors; it is on a bus route (so he can be accompanied to go and visit his partner). A solicitor has now been involved to approach the HB office with a view to a possible legal challenge. Thanks Robin Wooller
Welfare rights officer, northumberland nhs care trust Member since 06th Oct 2004
RE: HB for client in 2 bedroom house needing 24/7 care Fri 30-Nov-07 03:24 PM
If he is being charged by the LA for his care, the extra rent for the second bedroom could be treated as a "disability related cost" in the calculation of his charge, thereby reducing the charge.