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Steve Johnson
                              

Manager, Walthamstow CAB
Member since
24th Oct 2005

Claiming IS in the SSP period
Fri 10-Oct-08 08:16 AM

I've just seen this Q and A on the CPAG web site:

'...Q - I've been told that anyone on SSP will not be able to claim ESA. What will happen to those whose only income is SSP but who are part of a couple, or who have housing costs?

A - Those entitled to SSP will still be able to claim a top up of Income Support. Para 7(d) of Schedule 1B of the Income Support General Regulations 1987 has not been amended or revoked...'

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The ESA TP Reg 2008/795 only clobbered (a) and (b) of Para 7 of Schedule 1B. If Para 7(d) is still available (it is the route to IS whilst on SSP), then presumably a single person could also opt to go sick on IS during the SSP period, as long as their applicable amount outruns the £75.40 SSP. This could include not only couples and those with housing costs, but also those single people qualifying for IS disability or carer premiums. If so, I assume this could embrace disability premium, since the claimant would not at that stage be on ESA. When the SSP period expires, the claimant goes onto ESA in the normal way, losing any disability premium along the way. Is that right? What a mess!

Backtracking, what about those who would need housing costs in their IS Applicable Amount, in order to overtake the SSP income level? If they make a forward claim for IS during the SSP period, by the time the housing costs click in, they would be off IS anyway, because the SSP period would have finished!?!

I do hope I have got this wrong...Any thoughts?

Steve

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period, mike shermer, 10th Oct 2008, #2
RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period, bensup, 10th Oct 2008, #3
      RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period, bensup, 10th Oct 2008, #4
           RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period, mike shermer, 10th Oct 2008, #5
                RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period, bensup, 10th Oct 2008, #6

mike shermer
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Kings Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council, Kings l
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period
Fri 10-Oct-08 08:56 AM




Although Steve clearly has in mind the 39 week waiting period for housing costs, this also raises the question with regard to pre October 1998 mortgages, help with which is currently available after 8 weeks -

given the current economic climate, which is clearly not going to get any better in the foreseeable future, this has suddenly become an issue that needs to be clarified........

  

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bensup
                              

Benefits Supervisor, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
24th May 2004

RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period
Fri 10-Oct-08 11:12 AM

....and the new rules on housing cost waiting periods that come in, in April 2009...... I don't know about thoughts about this Steve - thinking about it gives me a blasted headache!!!!

  

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bensup
                              

Benefits Supervisor, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
24th May 2004

RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period
Fri 10-Oct-08 11:14 AM

And Mike - you obviously mean the housing costs prior to 02/10/95?

  

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mike shermer
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Kings Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council, Kings l
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period
Fri 10-Oct-08 11:58 AM



Was it that long ago - It's an age thing..........

  

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bensup
                              

Benefits Supervisor, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
24th May 2004

RE: Claiming IS in the SSP period
Fri 10-Oct-08 12:36 PM

It's frightening isn't it?! I can remember it happening very clearly and cannot believe it's 13 years ago!

  

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